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America and Israel are lawless countries. Can you imagine other countries assassinating a foreign head of state and not getting immediate blowback?

by g8oz 8mo ago

bamboozled 8mo ago
My thinking is that, it's good when it works in your favor, but one day it night not, and if it doesn't well what recourse is available then?
powerpcmac 8mo ago
Fine, you got me. We will expedite another billion in aid to Israel to make up for it.
TulliusCicero 8mo ago
There's no such thing as a legitimate dictator, and every one of them belongs six feet under.
SkyeCA 8mo ago
> America and Israel are lawless countries. The truth of the world, as much as we may hate it, is that at least at the state level might makes right.
- danny_codes 8mo ago
  Well not right, but effective in the short term. In the longer term I assume this kind of policy is destabilizing and bad for everyone
- hackable_sand 7mo ago
  Try again
- steve-atx-7600 7mo ago
  Said another way, if you don’t kill your enemy before he kills you, you die. Human nature hasn’t changed. I think it just gets forgotten.
cucumber3732842 8mo ago
You can't see the french or Russians doing the same thing in Africa? Because I sure can. There's be some hand wringing and posturing but that's about it. Not that it's ok for the US, or anyone else to do it.
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davidguetta 8mo ago
International law is below its ability to bé enforced
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muzani 8mo ago
I prefer assassinations of leaders in wars over deaths of soldiers and especially civilians. Considering how Israel had to raze entire cities to beat 'Hamas' or the US dropping nukes in WW2 instead of bombing the Japanese Emperor. This is decent as far as wars go.
- deaux 8mo ago
  > Considering how Israel had to raze entire cities to beat 'Hamas' They didn't, they just had to stop funding them, as Hamas has been funded by Israel.
  - HDThoreaun 8mo ago
    Israel stopped finding hamas decades ago
    - deaux 8mo ago
      Lies. > In an interview with Politico in 2023, former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said that "In the last 15 years, Israel did everything to downgrade the Palestinian Authority and to boost Hamas." He continued saying "Gaza was on the brink of collapse because they had no resources, they had no money, and the PA refused to give Hamas any money. Bibi saved them. Bibi made a deal with Qatar and they started to move millions and millions of dollars to Gaza."
      - dotancohen 8mo ago
        That looks like Israel made every effort to promote the welfare of Gazan citizens. From your own link "Gaza was on the brink of collapse" and Israel saved them.
        g8oz 7mo ago
        Nonsense. They wanted to stabilize Hamas rule so that the Palestinian Authority would not be able to govern there. A unified Palestinian government in the West Bank and Gaza is what they were opposed to. They feared diplomatic success on the part of the Palestinian Authority more so than any violence from Hamas. A major oops, but ideologically consistent with the Zionist goal of keeping a foot on the neck of Palestinians. There's not much else to Israel aside from that.
TiredOfLife 7mo ago
Russia tried many times in Ukraine. No blowback.
- sschueller 7mo ago
  What are you talking about? Russia has effectively been blocked from the west while when the United States invaded Iraq nothing happened. Europe trades with the US like nothing ever happened while Russia will never return to what it was before without at minimum Putin being gone. Europe even still trades with Israel when what they have done is Gaza has been declared a genocide by everyone. At the same time Russia can't even take part in the Olympics or the Eurovision song contest. The west has no moral ground to stand on and hopefully people in the west will start to see that.
  - throwaway2037 7mo ago
    You raise a lot of good points here. Another unconfortable truth: Russia is withstanding the sanctions way better than anyone expected. I don't think that they can sustain it forever, but I do think they can make it (at least) another 2-3 years.
shell0x 7mo ago
The EU should do more to move away from being dependent on america . America is a hostile nation and should be treated like Russia and China.
- y-curious 7mo ago
  EU needs the US so much and every time I see this comment, I remember why. Too many idealists running the EU
  - shell0x 7mo ago
    We need China more.
  - jjtwixman 7mo ago
    America is run by ideologues and the EU idealists. either way we are heading in separate directions. I don’t think the US can be described as a western country anymore tbh.
hearsathought 7mo ago
> America and Israel are lawless countries. America is as much a victim of israel as iran is. You act like we have a choice in this matter. We are forced to cut funding for food programs, education, healthcare, etc because of soaring debt. Yet, we'll take on any amount of debt for israel's wars. It's amazing how we've become a slave of such a small nation. > Can you imagine other countries assassinating a foreign head of state and not getting immediate blowback? It's simply a matter of power. Who is powerful enough to do the enforcing of laws or punishing of bad actors? Might makes right.

America and Israel are lawless countries. Can you imagine other countries assassinating a foreign head of state and not getting immediate blowback?

by g8oz 8mo ago

America and Israel are lawless countries. Can you imagine other countries assassinating a foreign head of state and not getting immediate blowback?

bamboozled 8mo ago

My thinking is that, it's good when it works in your favor, but one day it night not, and if it doesn't well what recourse is available then?

powerpcmac 8mo ago

Fine, you got me. We will expedite another billion in aid to Israel to make up for it.

TulliusCicero 8mo ago

There's no such thing as a legitimate dictator, and every one of them belongs six feet under.

SkyeCA 8mo ago

> America and Israel are lawless countries. The truth of the world, as much as we may hate it, is that at least at the state level might makes right.

danny_codes 8mo ago
Well not right, but effective in the short term. In the longer term I assume this kind of policy is destabilizing and bad for everyone
hackable_sand 7mo ago
Try again
steve-atx-7600 7mo ago
Said another way, if you don’t kill your enemy before he kills you, you die. Human nature hasn’t changed. I think it just gets forgotten.

cucumber3732842 8mo ago

You can't see the french or Russians doing the same thing in Africa? Because I sure can. There's be some hand wringing and posturing but that's about it. Not that it's ok for the US, or anyone else to do it.

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davidguetta 8mo ago

International law is below its ability to bé enforced

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muzani 8mo ago

I prefer assassinations of leaders in wars over deaths of soldiers and especially civilians. Considering how Israel had to raze entire cities to beat 'Hamas' or the US dropping nukes in WW2 instead of bombing the Japanese Emperor. This is decent as far as wars go.

deaux 8mo ago
> Considering how Israel had to raze entire cities to beat 'Hamas' They didn't, they just had to stop funding them, as Hamas has been funded by Israel.
- HDThoreaun 8mo ago
  Israel stopped finding hamas decades ago
  - deaux 8mo ago
    Lies. > In an interview with Politico in 2023, former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said that "In the last 15 years, Israel did everything to downgrade the Palestinian Authority and to boost Hamas." He continued saying "Gaza was on the brink of collapse because they had no resources, they had no money, and the PA refused to give Hamas any money. Bibi saved them. Bibi made a deal with Qatar and they started to move millions and millions of dollars to Gaza."
    - dotancohen 8mo ago
      That looks like Israel made every effort to promote the welfare of Gazan citizens. From your own link "Gaza was on the brink of collapse" and Israel saved them.
      - g8oz 7mo ago
        Nonsense. They wanted to stabilize Hamas rule so that the Palestinian Authority would not be able to govern there. A unified Palestinian government in the West Bank and Gaza is what they were opposed to. They feared diplomatic success on the part of the Palestinian Authority more so than any violence from Hamas. A major oops, but ideologically consistent with the Zionist goal of keeping a foot on the neck of Palestinians. There's not much else to Israel aside from that.

TiredOfLife 7mo ago

Russia tried many times in Ukraine. No blowback.

sschueller 7mo ago
What are you talking about? Russia has effectively been blocked from the west while when the United States invaded Iraq nothing happened. Europe trades with the US like nothing ever happened while Russia will never return to what it was before without at minimum Putin being gone. Europe even still trades with Israel when what they have done is Gaza has been declared a genocide by everyone. At the same time Russia can't even take part in the Olympics or the Eurovision song contest. The west has no moral ground to stand on and hopefully people in the west will start to see that.
- throwaway2037 7mo ago
  You raise a lot of good points here. Another unconfortable truth: Russia is withstanding the sanctions way better than anyone expected. I don't think that they can sustain it forever, but I do think they can make it (at least) another 2-3 years.

shell0x 7mo ago

The EU should do more to move away from being dependent on america . America is a hostile nation and should be treated like Russia and China.

y-curious 7mo ago
EU needs the US so much and every time I see this comment, I remember why. Too many idealists running the EU
- shell0x 7mo ago
  We need China more.
- jjtwixman 7mo ago
  America is run by ideologues and the EU idealists. either way we are heading in separate directions. I don’t think the US can be described as a western country anymore tbh.

hearsathought 7mo ago

> America and Israel are lawless countries. America is as much a victim of israel as iran is. You act like we have a choice in this matter. We are forced to cut funding for food programs, education, healthcare, etc because of soaring debt. Yet, we'll take on any amount of debt for israel's wars. It's amazing how we've become a slave of such a small nation. > Can you imagine other countries assassinating a foreign head of state and not getting immediate blowback? It's simply a matter of power. Who is powerful enough to do the enforcing of laws or punishing of bad actors? Might makes right.