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Trump could liberate every repressed country in the world and it would not impact in the slightest the cold hard fact that neither I nor most the people I know

Trump could liberate every repressed country in the world and it would not impact in the slightest the cold hard fact that neither I nor most the people I know will ever vote R again.

ActorNightly 7mo ago
If you are admitting that you voted R in 2024, and only now you won't vote R, that really doesn't fix anything. Your bar is set so insanely low that you will vote R on someone who is slightly better than Trump. As a life long D voter, I am personally going to vote R every election now because I want US to sink into the ground so low that people like you experience actual pain and suffering.
- guerrilla 7mo ago
  Stop it. You're not helping. This kind of thing is really counterproductive. Welcome your comrade with open arm. Give him time to warm up. Don't be an absolutist.
  - ActorNightly 7mo ago
    Its not about abolitionism, its about realizing that Trump is not the cause, its a symptom. The same sentiment that cause Nazi party to rise in power has never been eliminated, its just resurfaced itself years later. USA is not the only one with conservative problem, multiple countries in Europe have signs that right wing populism is on the rise. And in order to be eliminated, we have to be able to get to extreme levels of social policing. And the only way to get there is through a social reset where people forgo all the comforts in life and are forced to confront the things that are actually important.
    - guerrilla 7mo ago
      > we have to be able to get to extreme levels of social policing Fuck. That. That is not the world I am fighting for. Go live in North Korea if you want that. > its a symptom. We have very different ideas of what Trump is a symptom of.
      - ActorNightly 7mo ago
        Lets be clear, you and most people aren't "fighting". Typing comments on the internet, voting, and maybe donating money to PACs is literally the minimum amount of effort anyone can do to show support. Even for those that are doing political outreach, while the effort being put in is more than the average person, the direction is misplaced - in 2024 it was pretty clear that no matter how much information you give people, they are going to vote a certain way because of extreme polarization. If people were willing to actually FIGHT for what they believe in through offensive means, physical or cyber, with direct results, I would have a different opinion. But at this point, its pretty clear where society is headed. I don't want to live in that world either, but shit is going to boil over at one point or another, and delaying the inevitable just means we all get fucked when we are senior citizens instead of within the next decade.
- z3c0 7mo ago
  You took a presumption and ran with it into baseless vitriol
  - ActorNightly 7mo ago
    >either I nor most the people I know will ever vote R again This statement shows that the person has voted Trump in the past election, not sure how thats a presumption.
dabinat 7mo ago
I really hope the US electorate never forgives the Republican Party for the damage it’s done to this country, but I suspect that people’s memories will be short.
- dragonwriter 7mo ago
  If the US public was inclined to “never forgive” those kind of offenses (or even to really fully reject them even once they no longer had dominant support) then the Democratic Party would have been destroyed for its role as the party of slavery and insurrection instead of surviving long enough to reject the bigotry that motivated those stances only to have the Republican Party immediately pick it up.

Trump could liberate every repressed country in the world and it would not impact in the slightest the cold hard fact that neither I nor most the people I know will ever vote R again.

ActorNightly 7mo ago

If you are admitting that you voted R in 2024, and only now you won't vote R, that really doesn't fix anything. Your bar is set so insanely low that you will vote R on someone who is slightly better than Trump. As a life long D voter, I am personally going to vote R every election now because I want US to sink into the ground so low that people like you experience actual pain and suffering.

guerrilla 7mo ago
Stop it. You're not helping. This kind of thing is really counterproductive. Welcome your comrade with open arm. Give him time to warm up. Don't be an absolutist.
- ActorNightly 7mo ago
  Its not about abolitionism, its about realizing that Trump is not the cause, its a symptom. The same sentiment that cause Nazi party to rise in power has never been eliminated, its just resurfaced itself years later. USA is not the only one with conservative problem, multiple countries in Europe have signs that right wing populism is on the rise. And in order to be eliminated, we have to be able to get to extreme levels of social policing. And the only way to get there is through a social reset where people forgo all the comforts in life and are forced to confront the things that are actually important.
  - guerrilla 7mo ago
    > we have to be able to get to extreme levels of social policing Fuck. That. That is not the world I am fighting for. Go live in North Korea if you want that. > its a symptom. We have very different ideas of what Trump is a symptom of.
    - ActorNightly 7mo ago
      Lets be clear, you and most people aren't "fighting". Typing comments on the internet, voting, and maybe donating money to PACs is literally the minimum amount of effort anyone can do to show support. Even for those that are doing political outreach, while the effort being put in is more than the average person, the direction is misplaced - in 2024 it was pretty clear that no matter how much information you give people, they are going to vote a certain way because of extreme polarization. If people were willing to actually FIGHT for what they believe in through offensive means, physical or cyber, with direct results, I would have a different opinion. But at this point, its pretty clear where society is headed. I don't want to live in that world either, but shit is going to boil over at one point or another, and delaying the inevitable just means we all get fucked when we are senior citizens instead of within the next decade.
z3c0 7mo ago
You took a presumption and ran with it into baseless vitriol
- ActorNightly 7mo ago
  >either I nor most the people I know will ever vote R again This statement shows that the person has voted Trump in the past election, not sure how thats a presumption.

dabinat 7mo ago

I really hope the US electorate never forgives the Republican Party for the damage it’s done to this country, but I suspect that people’s memories will be short.

dragonwriter 7mo ago
If the US public was inclined to “never forgive” those kind of offenses (or even to really fully reject them even once they no longer had dominant support) then the Democratic Party would have been destroyed for its role as the party of slavery and insurrection instead of surviving long enough to reject the bigotry that motivated those stances only to have the Republican Party immediately pick it up.