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Ok. So we have just taken out all of Israel's foes with force. They are safe now right? We can stop supporting them militarily in every way now right? They no l

Ok. So we have just taken out all of Israel's foes with force. They are safe now right? We can stop supporting them militarily in every way now right? They no longer need any weapons, intelligence support, defense support, etc, right? If this is the right path to their long term safety then this must be true.

nailer 8mo ago
Iranian regime was the entire middle east’s foe, including Irans. Speak to your local Persian.
- I-M-S 8mo ago
  If by local you mean an émigré, they might be the worst person to ask.
  - nailer 8mo ago
    People inside iran are echoing the same sentiments as the emigres.
  - stevenhuang 8mo ago
    You need to learn your history. The Iranian people have lived under oppressive authoritarianism for 40 years since the Iranian revolution. Putting it lightly, many Iranian (within Iran) do not support the current regime. Especially not the educated.
- markus_zhang 8mo ago
  For sure a lot of people in Iran hate the regime. But given their 40 or so years of rule, I doubt they could achieve that without a strong basis. And yeah Iranians out of Iran definitely hate it too.
catlikesshrimp 8mo ago
To take a break from breaking havoc in Gaza, there was an israeli incursion into Lebanon (which included a fantastic supply chain attack) Then they tried to pick a fight in Siria for some BS reason (intervening Siria for protecting some jew friendly faction inside Siria, a la Russia protecting russiansnin Ukraine), then went to Iran, then continued milling Gaza, and now we are back at Iran, again. No, support will never falther.
- graeme 8mo ago
  >intervening Siria for protecting some jew friendly faction inside Siria, a la Russia protecting russiansnin Ukraine It was the Druze and they were actually being killed. "The friend of my enemy deserves to die" is not an attitude you have to adopt, even if you disagree with the Israeli response to the killings. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_2025_massacres_of_Syrian_Druze https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_2025_massacres_of_Syrian...
  - catlikesshrimp 8mo ago
    No, it is you saying someone deserves to die. I correctly stated Israel is invading another country for any reason which is not national security. It is the exact same sht with Russia in Ukrained because Israel also appropiated of Sirian territory. Israel has enough genocide at home, no need to invade other countries
- frakkingcylons 8mo ago
  Have you never seen the word Syria spelled out?
  - blindstitch 8mo ago
    Go to the wikipedia page for Syria and click the dropdown for other languages
  - catlikesshrimp 8mo ago
    Noted. My brain hadn't adapted to the [appropiate] spelling when typing on a phone screen.
muzani 8mo ago
Pretty sure killing all the enemies just turns the rest of the world into enemies.
- PessimalDecimal 8mo ago
  This is the gist of Israel's problem. Successful tactically, but no long term strategy. They're increasingly isolated. As Baby Boomer voters lose power in US, Israel's isolation will become more obvious.
  - exodust 8mo ago
    The long-term strategy is peace & stability. Before you ask "how's that going", remember that doing nothing wouldn't result in a satisfactory answer to that question either. The idea that "killing the enemies turns the rest of the world into enemies" is absurd. Other countries wouldn't follow the Iranian regime into martyrdom. What would be the reason: "we don't like war"? Nobody likes war, but also nobody likes evil dictators emerging on this planet and repressing 90 million of its inhabitants, and waging industrial scale terrorism offensives beyond its borders.
    - muzani 8mo ago
      In history class, we asked the teacher why the British killed these rebels and exiled those rebels. The rebels who led an army and killed many were exiled while the rebel who only had one kill was hung in the middle of his village and left to rot as an example. She sat they killed some of those rebels, it would have sparked more rebellions. The difference was political power, even in defeat. Mercy is a big part of survival. It's a bit like law enforcement. If there's no police, criminals are everywhere. If there's too many police, corruption becomes the standard, along with police brutality and profiling. You can never get it down to zero, just low enough.
- ergocoder 8mo ago
  To be fair, nobody likes Iran
aizk 8mo ago
America / Israel's partnership goes a lot deeper, it started in the cold war, and it's quite interesting. It heightened significantly after 9/11, where Israel spied (and still does) on all of America's enemies to prevent another 9/11, doing a lot of dirty work, giving intel as part of a partnership. I can't imagine both countries ever wanting to get rid of that partnership. This part of the equation is often left out in the conversation, presumably because it's hush hush ultimately.
elAhmo 8mo ago
AIPAC says hi

nailer 8mo ago

Iranian regime was the entire middle east’s foe, including Irans. Speak to your local Persian.

I-M-S 8mo ago
If by local you mean an émigré, they might be the worst person to ask.
- nailer 8mo ago
  People inside iran are echoing the same sentiments as the emigres.
- stevenhuang 8mo ago
  You need to learn your history. The Iranian people have lived under oppressive authoritarianism for 40 years since the Iranian revolution. Putting it lightly, many Iranian (within Iran) do not support the current regime. Especially not the educated.
markus_zhang 8mo ago
For sure a lot of people in Iran hate the regime. But given their 40 or so years of rule, I doubt they could achieve that without a strong basis. And yeah Iranians out of Iran definitely hate it too.

catlikesshrimp 8mo ago

To take a break from breaking havoc in Gaza, there was an israeli incursion into Lebanon (which included a fantastic supply chain attack) Then they tried to pick a fight in Siria for some BS reason (intervening Siria for protecting some jew friendly faction inside Siria, a la Russia protecting russiansnin Ukraine), then went to Iran, then continued milling Gaza, and now we are back at Iran, again. No, support will never falther.

graeme 8mo ago
>intervening Siria for protecting some jew friendly faction inside Siria, a la Russia protecting russiansnin Ukraine It was the Druze and they were actually being killed. "The friend of my enemy deserves to die" is not an attitude you have to adopt, even if you disagree with the Israeli response to the killings. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_2025_massacres_of_Syrian_Druze https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_2025_massacres_of_Syrian...
- catlikesshrimp 8mo ago
  No, it is you saying someone deserves to die. I correctly stated Israel is invading another country for any reason which is not national security. It is the exact same sht with Russia in Ukrained because Israel also appropiated of Sirian territory. Israel has enough genocide at home, no need to invade other countries
frakkingcylons 8mo ago
Have you never seen the word Syria spelled out?
- blindstitch 8mo ago
  Go to the wikipedia page for Syria and click the dropdown for other languages
- catlikesshrimp 8mo ago
  Noted. My brain hadn't adapted to the [appropiate] spelling when typing on a phone screen.

muzani 8mo ago

Pretty sure killing all the enemies just turns the rest of the world into enemies.

PessimalDecimal 8mo ago
This is the gist of Israel's problem. Successful tactically, but no long term strategy. They're increasingly isolated. As Baby Boomer voters lose power in US, Israel's isolation will become more obvious.
- exodust 8mo ago
  The long-term strategy is peace & stability. Before you ask "how's that going", remember that doing nothing wouldn't result in a satisfactory answer to that question either. The idea that "killing the enemies turns the rest of the world into enemies" is absurd. Other countries wouldn't follow the Iranian regime into martyrdom. What would be the reason: "we don't like war"? Nobody likes war, but also nobody likes evil dictators emerging on this planet and repressing 90 million of its inhabitants, and waging industrial scale terrorism offensives beyond its borders.
  - muzani 8mo ago
    In history class, we asked the teacher why the British killed these rebels and exiled those rebels. The rebels who led an army and killed many were exiled while the rebel who only had one kill was hung in the middle of his village and left to rot as an example. She sat they killed some of those rebels, it would have sparked more rebellions. The difference was political power, even in defeat. Mercy is a big part of survival. It's a bit like law enforcement. If there's no police, criminals are everywhere. If there's too many police, corruption becomes the standard, along with police brutality and profiling. You can never get it down to zero, just low enough.
ergocoder 8mo ago
To be fair, nobody likes Iran

aizk 8mo ago

America / Israel's partnership goes a lot deeper, it started in the cold war, and it's quite interesting. It heightened significantly after 9/11, where Israel spied (and still does) on all of America's enemies to prevent another 9/11, doing a lot of dirty work, giving intel as part of a partnership. I can't imagine both countries ever wanting to get rid of that partnership. This part of the equation is often left out in the conversation, presumably because it's hush hush ultimately.

elAhmo 8mo ago

AIPAC says hi