4 ms·

somehow I dont think regime change is gonna happen before the midterms or even before 2028

• JumpCrisscross 7mo ago
  > I dont think regime change is gonna happen before the midterms I agree. But to be fair, I would have said the same thing about Venezuela a year ago. Maybe the term should be a regime slip.
  • donkeybeer 7mo ago
    I think he meant another regime not the Iranians.
  • techblueberry 7mo ago
    We didn’t change the regime in Venezuela though right? Just decapitated it? No one’s thinking America cant succeed at the killing partz. It’s what comes after that people are worried about.
    • JumpCrisscross 7mo ago
      > We didn’t change the regime in Venezuela though right? Practically speaking, we changed it. The foreign and energy policies we care about changed. The notion that you need to wholesale clean shop to qualify as regime change is misguided and counterproductive [1]. (On the other end of the spectrum, the fact that we kept the Japanese Emperor on his throne doesn't mean we didn't change the Japanese regime.) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De-Ba%27athification https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De-Ba%27athification
      • techblueberry 7mo ago
        I don't know if the same theory works in Iran though right, Iran is amidst economic collapse. It seems like the situation in Venezula with Maduro was tenable so when we decapitated the leader and got what we wanted it was ok that maybe most things didn't change. Is there a similar theory for Iran that's not soaked in hubris?
        • JumpCrisscross 7mo ago
          > Is there a similar theory for Iran that's not soaked in hubris? Lots of factions in Iran, including within the IRGC. Khamenei's bunker gets hit, oh no, new dude knives the competition and then makes a call to the White House.
        • nullocator 7mo ago
          The U.S. is amidst economic collapse... hubris ...
      • tokai 7mo ago
        Delusional. With your line of thought Al-Qaeda got regime change in the US.