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I think the latter, the US is explicitly attempting a regime change operation so Iran has no reason for restraint. The US is aware of this, that's why they eva

I think the latter, the US is explicitly attempting a regime change operation so Iran has no reason for restraint. The US is aware of this, that's why they evacuated all their bases etc within range

chrisjj 8mo ago
> explicitly attempting a regime change operation I missed that press release. Where is it?
- Ardren 8mo ago
  > "When we are finished, take over your government. It will be yours to take. This will be probably your only chance for generations," https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/us-and-israel-launch-a-major-attack-on-iran-and-trump-urges-iranians-to-take-over-your-government https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/us-and-israel-launch-a-ma...
  - chrisjj 8mo ago
    ...if we didn't kill you. Thanks.
- vcryan 8mo ago
  US is to out of touch with reality, they want to put a Zionist who is generally hated by Iranians in power. Will never happen.
  - ifwinterco 8mo ago
    Exactly, I have a hard time seeing how that will ever play out how they want. The whole reason the 1979 revolution happened in the first place was because the Shah was a blatant US/Israeli puppet
    - reliabilityguy 8mo ago
      You've missed the part where islamist butchered the leaders of the actual 1979 revolution. In reality it was: unpopular shah -> 1979 revolution -> islamists take control, prison and kill the leftists of 1979 revolution.
      - ifwinterco 8mo ago
        That is true but that’s often how these things go, you pull together a coalition of factions to overthrow the existing elites and then afterwards it devolves into infighting
  - violentapricot 8mo ago
    It worked with Machado, so why wouldn't it work with... oh wait. We're governed by a shadowy criminal network of idiots.
  - reliabilityguy 8mo ago
    > who is generally hated by Iranians in power. So that’s why said Iranians chant Javid Shah?
    - swat535 8mo ago
      Iranian here, the Shah has surprisingly many supporters, both inside and abroad. Iran is a big complex country and is more diverse than people think.
      - thomassmith65 8mo ago
        When someone from the ME comments on a story about the ME, it is customary on HN for the community to downvote them into oblivion.
        AlexeyBelov 8mo ago
        They are not downvoted into oblivion as far as I can see. Why do you say it's customary?
        thomassmith65 8mo ago
        When I left the reply, the comment was light gray. I quipped that it is 'customary' based only on a few previous instances I noticed on HN. They drew my attention because with ME issues, I feel like most takes here (including my own) are based on received ideas, rather than first-hand experience.

I think the latter, the US is explicitly attempting a regime change operation so Iran has no reason for restraint. The US is aware of this, that's why they evacuated all their bases etc within range

chrisjj 8mo ago

> explicitly attempting a regime change operation I missed that press release. Where is it?

Ardren 8mo ago
> "When we are finished, take over your government. It will be yours to take. This will be probably your only chance for generations," https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/us-and-israel-launch-a-major-attack-on-iran-and-trump-urges-iranians-to-take-over-your-government https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/us-and-israel-launch-a-ma...
- chrisjj 8mo ago
  ...if we didn't kill you. Thanks.
vcryan 8mo ago
US is to out of touch with reality, they want to put a Zionist who is generally hated by Iranians in power. Will never happen.
- ifwinterco 8mo ago
  Exactly, I have a hard time seeing how that will ever play out how they want. The whole reason the 1979 revolution happened in the first place was because the Shah was a blatant US/Israeli puppet
  - reliabilityguy 8mo ago
    You've missed the part where islamist butchered the leaders of the actual 1979 revolution. In reality it was: unpopular shah -> 1979 revolution -> islamists take control, prison and kill the leftists of 1979 revolution.
    - ifwinterco 8mo ago
      That is true but that’s often how these things go, you pull together a coalition of factions to overthrow the existing elites and then afterwards it devolves into infighting
- violentapricot 8mo ago
  It worked with Machado, so why wouldn't it work with... oh wait. We're governed by a shadowy criminal network of idiots.
- reliabilityguy 8mo ago
  > who is generally hated by Iranians in power. So that’s why said Iranians chant Javid Shah?
  - swat535 8mo ago
    Iranian here, the Shah has surprisingly many supporters, both inside and abroad. Iran is a big complex country and is more diverse than people think.
    - thomassmith65 8mo ago
      When someone from the ME comments on a story about the ME, it is customary on HN for the community to downvote them into oblivion.
      - AlexeyBelov 8mo ago
        They are not downvoted into oblivion as far as I can see. Why do you say it's customary?
        thomassmith65 8mo ago
        When I left the reply, the comment was light gray. I quipped that it is 'customary' based only on a few previous instances I noticed on HN. They drew my attention because with ME issues, I feel like most takes here (including my own) are based on received ideas, rather than first-hand experience.