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> The wall extends across the so-called Blue Line and has made “more than 4,000 square metres [43,055sq feet] of Lebanese territory inaccessible to the Lebanese
by tome 7mo ago
> The wall extends across the so-called Blue Line and has made “more than 4,000 square metres [43,055sq feet] of Lebanese territory inaccessible to the Lebanese people”
So you're saying Israel's occupation of Lebanon amounts to 4,000 square metres? About the area of an athletics track, I guess? (Not counting the bit inside the athletics track.)
- Y-bar 7mo agoHow much land area, exactly, is another nation allowed to seize by force before it becomes unacceptable to you? It obviously is not that much given the tone of your message. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli%E2%80%93Lebanese_conflict#Israeli_incursions_into_Lebanon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli%E2%80%93Lebanese_confl...
- tome 7mo agoThat's not the question I'm interested in. The question I'm interested in is whether it's correct to claim that Israel occupies "parts of Lebanon", particularly in the context in which the claim was made, next to the claim that it occupies Gaza and the West Bank.
- Y-bar 7mo agoI could have sworn that I saw a goalpost here. Why is it over there now?
- tome 7mo agoThe goalpost is "Israel's occupation of ... parts of Lebanon". Do you agree with tsimionescu that Israel occupies parts of Lebanon? Can you back that up?
- Y-bar 7mo agoYes I agree, and yes, I have backed it up already.
- tome 7mo agoDo you mean with the link to Wikipedia? Could you clarify exactly what part of it backs up your claim?
- Y-bar 7mo agoYes, if you are able and willing to follow those sources you can end up on for example this United Nations page https://peacekeeping.un.org/en/unifil-statement-14-november-2025 https://peacekeeping.un.org/en/unifil-statement-14-november-... > In October, UNIFIL peacekeepers conducted a geospatial survey of a concrete T-wall erected by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) southwest of Yaroun. The survey confirmed that the wall crossed the Blue Line, rendering more than 4,000 square metres of Lebanese territory inaccessible to the Lebanese people.
- tome 7mo agoRight, OK, I guess if you're complaining about some land about the area of an athletics running track then you are technically correct. I'm not sure that's what people would have understood by tsimonescu's original claim that Israel is occupying parts of Lebanon. And what exactly is Israel doing there, on that land the size of an athletics track? Something very nefarious?
- Y-bar 7mo agoHow much land area, exactly, is another nation allowed to seize by force before it becomes unacceptable to you? It obviously is not that much given the tone of your message.
- tome 7mo agoMy answer to that question is context dependent. I don't have a strong objection to Israel occupying 4,000 square metres of Lebanon. But I think we're established the answer to the question I originally asked. Thanks for participating.