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I'm not sure why you keep saying 'looks like Twitter'. Bootstrap was originally created by Twitter, it wasn't created to make every site look like Twitter - nor

by wilfra 14y ago

I'm not sure why you keep saying 'looks like Twitter'. Bootstrap was originally created by Twitter, it wasn't created to make every site look like Twitter - nor does it do that. As for your other comments, you seem to have a far greater knowledge and skill level dealing with CSS than you let on. That's great for you, it must make doing frontend work a breeze - and maybe you don't need Bootstrap. Not everybody is so experienced though - and for them, Bootstrap can make life much simpler.

papsosouid 14y ago
"Looks like twitter" is just shorter than "looks like every bootstrap website on the internet". My CSS knowledge and skill is very low, I'd rate myself a 2 or a 3 out of 10. I tend to leave the design work to the designers whenever I can. I certainly agree that a default stylesheet is quick and easy, I just didn't realize that's all boostrap is. Now I know the answer to the question everyone keeps asking me ("why aren't you using bootstrap") is "because I already have a default stylesheet". Previously my answer was "I don't know what I am supposed to do with it or why".
- mixmastamyk 14y ago
  I've read your diatribe here and am underwhelmed. However, I was underwhelmed when investigating bootstrap too. Separation of content and presentation sounds good, but a concrete example would be much more convincing. (I do understand the general idea, so pls don't explain it.) I think what I am hearing is that css styles should be applied to tags rather than classes, but am not sure. I suppose your time would be better spent building a prototype of what you mean instead of wasting it here. One link is worth a thousand words. Do it right, put it on github, give it five years, and people will be laughing at bootstrap sites, while you are racking up consulting fees.
  - papsosouid 14y ago
    >I think what I am hearing is that css styles should be applied to tags rather than classes, but am not sure. As much as possible, yes. Here's a good example of what I mean, although he makes the mistake of taking it to the other extreme ("you should never use a class for anything ever!"): http://coding.smashingmagazine.com/2012/06/19/classes-where-were-going-we-dont-need-classes/ http://coding.smashingmagazine.com/2012/06/19/classes-where-... >Do it right, put it on github, give it five years, and people will be laughing at bootstrap sites, while you are racking up consulting fees. That seems like a rather unfounded assumption. There's already several other CSS "frameworks" that are better than boostrap. What is popular and what is good are seldom strongly correlated.
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    - mixmastamyk 14y ago
      Read the link and liked it. Now what? What are these better CSS frameworks?

by wilfra 14y ago

papsosouid 14y ago

"Looks like twitter" is just shorter than "looks like every bootstrap website on the internet". My CSS knowledge and skill is very low, I'd rate myself a 2 or a 3 out of 10. I tend to leave the design work to the designers whenever I can. I certainly agree that a default stylesheet is quick and easy, I just didn't realize that's all boostrap is. Now I know the answer to the question everyone keeps asking me ("why aren't you using bootstrap") is "because I already have a default stylesheet". Previously my answer was "I don't know what I am supposed to do with it or why".

mixmastamyk 14y ago
I've read your diatribe here and am underwhelmed. However, I was underwhelmed when investigating bootstrap too. Separation of content and presentation sounds good, but a concrete example would be much more convincing. (I do understand the general idea, so pls don't explain it.) I think what I am hearing is that css styles should be applied to tags rather than classes, but am not sure. I suppose your time would be better spent building a prototype of what you mean instead of wasting it here. One link is worth a thousand words. Do it right, put it on github, give it five years, and people will be laughing at bootstrap sites, while you are racking up consulting fees.
- papsosouid 14y ago
  >I think what I am hearing is that css styles should be applied to tags rather than classes, but am not sure. As much as possible, yes. Here's a good example of what I mean, although he makes the mistake of taking it to the other extreme ("you should never use a class for anything ever!"): http://coding.smashingmagazine.com/2012/06/19/classes-where-were-going-we-dont-need-classes/ http://coding.smashingmagazine.com/2012/06/19/classes-where-... >Do it right, put it on github, give it five years, and people will be laughing at bootstrap sites, while you are racking up consulting fees. That seems like a rather unfounded assumption. There's already several other CSS "frameworks" that are better than boostrap. What is popular and what is good are seldom strongly correlated.
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  - mixmastamyk 14y ago
    Read the link and liked it. Now what? What are these better CSS frameworks?