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Anthropic is welcome to set up shop here in Canada! I hear Victoria BC is great. Absolutely brimming, overflowing with technology talent

thirtygeo 8mo ago
Actually why is nobody in Cali just trying to join Canada - would be better for everyone in terms of more similar culture and values. Weird that it isn't discussed more
- pesus 8mo ago
  If I had to guess as a lifelong California resident, I'd say the salary discrepancy is probably the biggest factor. I'd also guess the weather and lack of available jobs would be the next biggest factors, not necessarily in that order.
  - steve_adams_86 8mo ago
    No, imagine the salary potential, not the discrepancy. Ape stronger together. We'd be a new world super power
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  - mock-possum 8mo ago
    Yep, tech peeps loving in Cana want to work in Cali, not so much the other way around, in my experience, not so much the other way around.
- post-it 8mo ago
  Canada isn't interested in being part of a country that's 50% American either.
- crossroadsguy 8mo ago
  A friend (he is from mostly warm and sunlit South India) who moved to Canada from California says he just can’t take that weather anymore. So maybe weather is a huge factor? You deal with that not everyday in your life but every hour..second and year round.
  - 8note 8mo ago
    victoria itself is a sunnier, drier seattle. from LA or san diego is real different, but as you go north it all gets abuut the same. if they went to toronto or montreal or something, that would be wildly different
- egonschiele 8mo ago
  Someone has to stay to fight the shit happening in the US! The problem won't just go away if people move.
- steve_adams_86 8mo ago
  Those of us in the Cascadian movement have been talking about it for decades!
- jjmarr 8mo ago
  50% paycut for similar cost of living. Do you want to put 3 kids into a 2-bedroom apartment on your US$120k salary, with $10k of RSUs the government takes 53% of? In addition to a 13% sales tax?
  - oenton 8mo ago
    How much of your U.S. paycheck goes towards healthcare premiums? How about much is daycare in the U.S. for 3 children? Conservative estimates put that at $4-$5,000 per month, and that's after tax. Is there a reason your comment omits these key differences when comparing a SWE's quality of life living in the United States vs. Canada?
    - jjmarr 8mo ago
      I don't get free daycare in Canada either. I'm not American, but I pay a few hundred dollars a year for the premium health insurance plan at my company. I also pay tens of thousands of dollars more in taxes to grant me the ability to wait for 72 hours in an ER hallway whenever I can't wait weeks for an appointment because urgent care isn't a thing. My take home would triple if I lived in the USA as a new graduate because of things like favourable treatment of stock grants, less income tax, and the fact my salary would double. I'm sure the $80,000 extra dollars is enough to pay for the healthcare premiums and daycare. My effective hourly rate would be high enough that going from a 72 hour wait to a few hours would be worth the thousands of dollars in ER bills. If I worked for the government or another lower paying profession it would not be good, but I am a well-compensated software engineer. There's a reason why 90% of Waterloo immediately moves to the United States after graduation.
      - oenton 8mo ago
        My apologies. I thought $10/day daycare was universal in Canada. I guess my broader point was the difference in disposable income between U.S. workers vs. other countries becomes a lot more nuanced when things like healthcare, childcare, retirement, and taxes are taken into account. > I'm sure the $80,000 extra dollars is enough to pay for the healthcare premiums and daycare. You're probably right. That said, SWE compensation in the U.S. has been quite an anomaly compared to the vast majority of American labor, especially in the last 5-10 years. I don't think those who are comfortable right now are thinking far enough ahead about what they'll do if that changes, or perhaps when that changes. If this AI hype has taught me anything it's that those with capital cannot wait to start trimming their pesky engineers with those high salaries. And maybe that's always been the case, but seeing them go full mask off hits different. Unrelated, I like your website. It's simple and the color scheme is aesthetically pleasing.
8note 8mo ago
whats going on round tectoria/viatec nowadays? im looking to go buy a house there next
- steve_adams_86 8mo ago
  I'm out of the loop, but the last local tech job I had was with instant domains inc. That was great. These days I'm doing marine/geo science work with an NGO and I don't hear much about the local scene. A lot of the old players are still around, but there must be something new and interesting happening. A coworker mentioned there's an autonomous marine sensing startup right in the downtown area. I want to look into that. Any specific areas you want to buy in?
  - 8note 8mo ago
    oh, i think a friend might work there if theyre partnering with uvic at all. generally okalands/fernwood, though ive been eyeing some spots on the gorge
    - steve_adams_86 8mo ago
      Nice, I was living in Fernwood and bought in Gorge. I love both. I miss some things about Fernwood, but overall I think I prefer Gorge. Being right by the waterway and having nicer places to walk, easy access to the galloping goose, and more of an up-and-coming vibe is nice. Fernwood feels a bit like it'll be residential forever, then Burnside and Gorge have wayyy more work to do, but more potential too in my opinion. Plus Gorge already has some beautiful spots as it is. Oaklands is awesome. I haven't lived there but I love it. We've got a lot of friends out there.

thirtygeo 8mo ago

Actually why is nobody in Cali just trying to join Canada - would be better for everyone in terms of more similar culture and values. Weird that it isn't discussed more

pesus 8mo ago
If I had to guess as a lifelong California resident, I'd say the salary discrepancy is probably the biggest factor. I'd also guess the weather and lack of available jobs would be the next biggest factors, not necessarily in that order.
- steve_adams_86 8mo ago
  No, imagine the salary potential, not the discrepancy. Ape stronger together. We'd be a new world super power
  - deleted 8mo ago
    [deleted]
- mock-possum 8mo ago
  Yep, tech peeps loving in Cana want to work in Cali, not so much the other way around, in my experience, not so much the other way around.
post-it 8mo ago
Canada isn't interested in being part of a country that's 50% American either.
crossroadsguy 8mo ago
A friend (he is from mostly warm and sunlit South India) who moved to Canada from California says he just can’t take that weather anymore. So maybe weather is a huge factor? You deal with that not everyday in your life but every hour..second and year round.
- 8note 8mo ago
  victoria itself is a sunnier, drier seattle. from LA or san diego is real different, but as you go north it all gets abuut the same. if they went to toronto or montreal or something, that would be wildly different
egonschiele 8mo ago
Someone has to stay to fight the shit happening in the US! The problem won't just go away if people move.
steve_adams_86 8mo ago
Those of us in the Cascadian movement have been talking about it for decades!
jjmarr 8mo ago
50% paycut for similar cost of living. Do you want to put 3 kids into a 2-bedroom apartment on your US$120k salary, with $10k of RSUs the government takes 53% of? In addition to a 13% sales tax?
- oenton 8mo ago
  How much of your U.S. paycheck goes towards healthcare premiums? How about much is daycare in the U.S. for 3 children? Conservative estimates put that at $4-$5,000 per month, and that's after tax. Is there a reason your comment omits these key differences when comparing a SWE's quality of life living in the United States vs. Canada?
  - jjmarr 8mo ago
    I don't get free daycare in Canada either. I'm not American, but I pay a few hundred dollars a year for the premium health insurance plan at my company. I also pay tens of thousands of dollars more in taxes to grant me the ability to wait for 72 hours in an ER hallway whenever I can't wait weeks for an appointment because urgent care isn't a thing. My take home would triple if I lived in the USA as a new graduate because of things like favourable treatment of stock grants, less income tax, and the fact my salary would double. I'm sure the $80,000 extra dollars is enough to pay for the healthcare premiums and daycare. My effective hourly rate would be high enough that going from a 72 hour wait to a few hours would be worth the thousands of dollars in ER bills. If I worked for the government or another lower paying profession it would not be good, but I am a well-compensated software engineer. There's a reason why 90% of Waterloo immediately moves to the United States after graduation.
    - oenton 8mo ago
      My apologies. I thought $10/day daycare was universal in Canada. I guess my broader point was the difference in disposable income between U.S. workers vs. other countries becomes a lot more nuanced when things like healthcare, childcare, retirement, and taxes are taken into account. > I'm sure the $80,000 extra dollars is enough to pay for the healthcare premiums and daycare. You're probably right. That said, SWE compensation in the U.S. has been quite an anomaly compared to the vast majority of American labor, especially in the last 5-10 years. I don't think those who are comfortable right now are thinking far enough ahead about what they'll do if that changes, or perhaps when that changes. If this AI hype has taught me anything it's that those with capital cannot wait to start trimming their pesky engineers with those high salaries. And maybe that's always been the case, but seeing them go full mask off hits different. Unrelated, I like your website. It's simple and the color scheme is aesthetically pleasing.

8note 8mo ago

whats going on round tectoria/viatec nowadays? im looking to go buy a house there next

steve_adams_86 8mo ago
I'm out of the loop, but the last local tech job I had was with instant domains inc. That was great. These days I'm doing marine/geo science work with an NGO and I don't hear much about the local scene. A lot of the old players are still around, but there must be something new and interesting happening. A coworker mentioned there's an autonomous marine sensing startup right in the downtown area. I want to look into that. Any specific areas you want to buy in?
- 8note 8mo ago
  oh, i think a friend might work there if theyre partnering with uvic at all. generally okalands/fernwood, though ive been eyeing some spots on the gorge
  - steve_adams_86 8mo ago
    Nice, I was living in Fernwood and bought in Gorge. I love both. I miss some things about Fernwood, but overall I think I prefer Gorge. Being right by the waterway and having nicer places to walk, easy access to the galloping goose, and more of an up-and-coming vibe is nice. Fernwood feels a bit like it'll be residential forever, then Burnside and Gorge have wayyy more work to do, but more potential too in my opinion. Plus Gorge already has some beautiful spots as it is. Oaklands is awesome. I haven't lived there but I love it. We've got a lot of friends out there.