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As an American, Red Dwarf along with Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy created a deep appreciation both for British humor and funny sci-fi in my adolescent self.
by ddellacosta 7mo ago
As an American, Red Dwarf along with Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy created a deep appreciation both for British humor and funny sci-fi in my adolescent self. I now own the box set on DVD and even have a random Red Dwarf novel I got at a yard sale (I forget which one of them wrote it though).
RIP Rob! Will be having a vindaloo, lager, and maybe some fish (Fish! Fish! Fish!) later in your honor
(EDIT: 100% talking about the UK version here, had no idea or forgot there _was_ an American version)
- afandian 7mo agoMaybe it was written by: > Grant Naylor is a gestalt entity occupying two bodies, one of which lives in north London, the other in south London. The product of a horribly botched genetic-engineering experiment, which took place in Manchester in the late fifties, they try to eke out two existences with only one mind. They attended the same school and the same university, but, for tax reasons, have completely different wives. > The first body is called Rob Grant, the second Doug Naylor. Among other things, they spent three years in the mid-eighties as head writers of Spitting Image; wrote Radio Four's award-winning series Son of Cliche; penned the lyrics to a number one single; and created and wrote Red Dwarf for BBC television. > They have made a living variously by being ice-cream salesmen, shoe-shop assistants and by attempting to sell dodgy life-assurance policies to close friends. They also spent almost two years on the night shift loading paper into computer printers at a mail-order factory in Ardwick. They can still taste the cheese 'n' onion toasties. > Their favourite colour is orange.
- ddellacosta 7mo agoHaha I went and actually looked and yep, that's it...no wonder I couldn't remember
- afandian 7mo agoSomehow enough fragments of that stayed in my brain since 2004 to google it. My first and last real-life encounter with the word 'gestalt'.
- nmstoker 7mo agoMemory is such an odd thing: not having thought of it in years, I recalled that Gestalt was a Mac feature to allow it to know its own capabilities: https://apple.fandom.com/wiki/Gestalt https://apple.fandom.com/wiki/Gestalt
- nephihaha 7mo agoI associate gestalt with a form of psychotherapy although I have never encountered anywhere that actually offers gestalt therapy round here!
- benj111 7mo agoI can't remember why I opened a cupboard door, although I recently came across Cerulean blue in an art shop which after much googling got me to the X files episode that I can't have seen since it first aired. memory is indeed weird
- evanelias 7mo agoYeah the first two novels were credited to their "Grant Naylor" partnership, and they're both excellent. After that, they each wrote an additional Red Dwarf novel individually / separately. Personally I've never come across those last two novels, although I always check for them whenever visiting a used book store. Maybe they were only released in the UK. They're available on Amazon in the US, but I haven't quite given up hope on stumbling across them naturally yet...
- afavour 7mo agoI’ve read both. It’s been years but Grant’s, Backwards, was notably better than Naylor’s, Last Human. Backwards spent the first section of the book in the backwards universe, over years. It’s has an interesting exploration of the implications of that universe. By comparison Last Human wraps that up in a few pages and spends most of its time dealing with android assassins.
- benj111 7mo agoIn my head 1 sold left shoes, the other right shoes...
- beloch 7mo agoRed Dwarf is an absolute classic, but I think people of all nations can agree that the American version was better off cancelled. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mlnntKi2no https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mlnntKi2no Even the second attempt at it, with Star Trek DS9's Terry Farrell (as Cat), was a bad idea. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfJsViD9SjM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfJsViD9SjM The original was lightning in a bottle.
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- nephihaha 7mo agoI have watched the American pilot, and one thing I found curious was that the two female characters were the most interesting (Cat and the Computer played by Terry Farrel and Jane Leeves who were both in major series - Deep Space Nine and Frasier). Holly/Computer has been female for much of the British series and Cat did work as a female character. Contrast with the British show which was very male except for computer (sometimes) and Kochanski when she became a regular character (Chloe Annette didn't really work. I wish Clare Grogan had been a regular instead.)
- ddellacosta 7mo agoI agree, Clare Grogan is still who I picture when I think of Kochanski tbh, I loved her energy
- nephihaha 7mo agoClare Grogan is definitely who I think of. I couldn't really see Chloe Annette being Kochanski, she was miscast and I don't think she got good scripts.
- afavour 7mo agoI just don’t think it makes sense having Kochanski as a regular character. Lister’s yearning for a (largely imagined) version of her works so much better.