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There is no carve out in the law for open source. I don’t think it matters for this calculator’s firmware, because there’s no covered App Store, but it certainl

There is no carve out in the law for open source. I don’t think it matters for this calculator’s firmware, because there’s no covered App Store, but it certainly would for most Linux distributions.

drnick1 7mo ago
The law is irrelevant when it comes to open source. There is no one to turn to and bully for compliance. A government could presumably request that GitHub delete the repo, but the software will then simply move somewhere else, in a jurisdiction where these laws don't apply, or be distributed peer-to-peer. These attempts at curbing the freedom to write and distribute software are pathetic and will fail.
- mhurron 7mo ago
  > simply move somewhere else, in a jurisdiction where these laws don't apply, or be distributed peer-to-peer Each of these options lead software to become less and less discoverable leading to the fact that most people will never use anything that isn't complying with these laws. So the end result still hits the desired effect.
  - rescbr 7mo ago
    Eh... Prohibiting access to MSN Messenger on school computers was one of the catalysts to me being a highly paid professional today. Tell children they can't do X, some will find ways around it, tell their friends the workaround and maybe even get a profession out of it. Who knows, maybe one kid will find a text editor and a compiler laying around somewhere... Fuck, I even tried to learn Russian by myself just to understand those old hacking forums. At least I got proficient in Cyrillic. I don't have children, but definitely I'd direct them to learn reading Chinese.
- tliltocatl 7mo ago
  > There is no one to turn to and bully for compliance > These attempts at curbing the freedom to write and distribute software are pathetic and will fail. You sweet summer child.
- delfinom 7mo ago
  >There is no one to turn to and bully for compliance. They can and will go after anyone that distributes it.
c3d 7mo ago
I'm not sure how you draw the conclusion that there is no covered app store. Are you sure https://github.com/c3d/db48x/tree/dev/library https://github.com/c3d/db48x/tree/dev/library is not covered, for example? More importantly, are you willing to indemnify me if some lawyer decides to argue that this projects falls under the law and that I should pay $7500 per child using it?

drnick1 7mo ago

The law is irrelevant when it comes to open source. There is no one to turn to and bully for compliance. A government could presumably request that GitHub delete the repo, but the software will then simply move somewhere else, in a jurisdiction where these laws don't apply, or be distributed peer-to-peer. These attempts at curbing the freedom to write and distribute software are pathetic and will fail.

mhurron 7mo ago
> simply move somewhere else, in a jurisdiction where these laws don't apply, or be distributed peer-to-peer Each of these options lead software to become less and less discoverable leading to the fact that most people will never use anything that isn't complying with these laws. So the end result still hits the desired effect.
- rescbr 7mo ago
  Eh... Prohibiting access to MSN Messenger on school computers was one of the catalysts to me being a highly paid professional today. Tell children they can't do X, some will find ways around it, tell their friends the workaround and maybe even get a profession out of it. Who knows, maybe one kid will find a text editor and a compiler laying around somewhere... Fuck, I even tried to learn Russian by myself just to understand those old hacking forums. At least I got proficient in Cyrillic. I don't have children, but definitely I'd direct them to learn reading Chinese.
tliltocatl 7mo ago
> There is no one to turn to and bully for compliance > These attempts at curbing the freedom to write and distribute software are pathetic and will fail. You sweet summer child.
delfinom 7mo ago
>There is no one to turn to and bully for compliance. They can and will go after anyone that distributes it.

c3d 7mo ago

I'm not sure how you draw the conclusion that there is no covered app store. Are you sure https://github.com/c3d/db48x/tree/dev/library https://github.com/c3d/db48x/tree/dev/library is not covered, for example? More importantly, are you willing to indemnify me if some lawyer decides to argue that this projects falls under the law and that I should pay $7500 per child using it?