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No one is stopping you from vibe-coding a POSIX-compatible mobile OS.

hu3 8mo ago
Not parent commenter but this is bound to happen. And I highly doubt iOS and Android are free from LLM assisted code at this point.
- mpol 8mo ago
  Could AI write a highly specific camera driver or GPU driver, without any documentation at all?
  - pantalaimon 8mo ago
    I'm sure it could generate a decent device tree
  - hu3 8mo ago
    Probably not and why would it need such constraint? Not even humans can do that. Documentation needs to at least be reverse-engineered and understood before implementation.
    - fruitworks 8mo ago
      Because these are the major types of problems that pmOS solves?
  - fartfeatures 8mo ago
    Can you?
- imadr 8mo ago
  Yes and? Let's suppose your statement is 100% true, I genuinely don't see the point of these kinds of comments. Why every time some person/group of people enact an anti-LLM policy in their project, other people feel the personal need to stress how useful LLMs are and how that project is bound to fail if they don't use it? Postmarketos clearly exists and works, EVEN if LLMs were absolutely perfect for speeding up development ten folds, is there any absolute moral necessity to use them? Also isn't this just moving the goalpost that LLM fanatics love to point out?
  - hu3 8mo ago
    I'm pointing out that their expectation of AI-free OS is pointless. Because AI-assisted code is most probably already present in devices they use. And I dare say that even for PostmarktOS: 1) There's no way they can prevent AI-assisted code to reach their codebase. 2) They will most probably change this policy in the future lest other forks/projects outpace them in terms of utility and they get reduced to a carriage in a car world.
    - raincole 8mo ago
      The stance is not to 'prevent AI-assisted code to reach their codebase.' It's not like AI-assisted code is literally poisonous and their codebase dies if touched. The stance is to deter random vibe-coders trying to resume-max by submitting PRs to known open source projects. There are so many of them rn. Hopefully by making it clear (some of) them will realize doing that is just wasting their tokens.
      - hu3 8mo ago
        I understand there's an avalanche of vibe slop PRs. But to be clear their AI instance is as clear-cut as can be. Their instance IS INDEED to "prevent AI-assisted code to reach their codebase". > The following is not allowed in postmarketOS: > Submitting contributions fully or in part created by generative AI tools to postmarketOS. source: https://docs.postmarketos.org/policies-and-processes/development/ai-policy.html https://docs.postmarketos.org/policies-and-processes/develop...
        UqWBcuFx6NV4r 8mo ago
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        hu3 8mo ago
        No need to call names. And I don't understand your point. Are you calling their rules impossible to enforce? As per their rules, their instance is not only against entire PRs but any AI assisted code.

hu3 8mo ago

Not parent commenter but this is bound to happen. And I highly doubt iOS and Android are free from LLM assisted code at this point.

mpol 8mo ago
Could AI write a highly specific camera driver or GPU driver, without any documentation at all?
- pantalaimon 8mo ago
  I'm sure it could generate a decent device tree
- hu3 8mo ago
  Probably not and why would it need such constraint? Not even humans can do that. Documentation needs to at least be reverse-engineered and understood before implementation.
  - fruitworks 8mo ago
    Because these are the major types of problems that pmOS solves?
- fartfeatures 8mo ago
  Can you?
imadr 8mo ago
Yes and? Let's suppose your statement is 100% true, I genuinely don't see the point of these kinds of comments. Why every time some person/group of people enact an anti-LLM policy in their project, other people feel the personal need to stress how useful LLMs are and how that project is bound to fail if they don't use it? Postmarketos clearly exists and works, EVEN if LLMs were absolutely perfect for speeding up development ten folds, is there any absolute moral necessity to use them? Also isn't this just moving the goalpost that LLM fanatics love to point out?
- hu3 8mo ago
  I'm pointing out that their expectation of AI-free OS is pointless. Because AI-assisted code is most probably already present in devices they use. And I dare say that even for PostmarktOS: 1) There's no way they can prevent AI-assisted code to reach their codebase. 2) They will most probably change this policy in the future lest other forks/projects outpace them in terms of utility and they get reduced to a carriage in a car world.
  - raincole 8mo ago
    The stance is not to 'prevent AI-assisted code to reach their codebase.' It's not like AI-assisted code is literally poisonous and their codebase dies if touched. The stance is to deter random vibe-coders trying to resume-max by submitting PRs to known open source projects. There are so many of them rn. Hopefully by making it clear (some of) them will realize doing that is just wasting their tokens.
    - hu3 8mo ago
      I understand there's an avalanche of vibe slop PRs. But to be clear their AI instance is as clear-cut as can be. Their instance IS INDEED to "prevent AI-assisted code to reach their codebase". > The following is not allowed in postmarketOS: > Submitting contributions fully or in part created by generative AI tools to postmarketOS. source: https://docs.postmarketos.org/policies-and-processes/development/ai-policy.html https://docs.postmarketos.org/policies-and-processes/develop...
      - UqWBcuFx6NV4r 8mo ago
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        hu3 8mo ago
        No need to call names. And I don't understand your point. Are you calling their rules impossible to enforce? As per their rules, their instance is not only against entire PRs but any AI assisted code.