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Alternative hypothesis: the reported number of drones isn't real (anything the Trump government says about "cartels" can be assumed to be made up). The military

by pjc50 8mo ago

Alternative hypothesis: the reported number of drones isn't real (anything the Trump government says about "cartels" can be assumed to be made up). The military got increasingly on alert, with senior officers pushing to get a shootdown on one of the not real drones. Therefore the laser operators end up firing on the first drone they confirm seeing. Compare the MH-17 incident. See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gatwick_Airport_drone_incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gatwick_Airport_drone_incident , which also involved no confirmed actual drone.

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Georgelemental 8mo ago
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- iso1631 8mo ago
  Yet the US government can't seem to parade the hundreds of drones they are surely catching with the new operating model? It seems 100% of the drones they have shot down are US government ones. Which is it 1) US government is deliberately avoiding the cartel ones 2) US government is completely incompetent and the cartel outmatch the might of the US military 3) The cartel isn't actually using drones 4) The US government have shot down dozens of drones but are keeping quiet about it
- t-3 8mo ago
  Drones are not perfectly reasonable when semi-trucks filled with literal tons of drugs pass the border every day. They are used to smuggle drugs into prisons, but not really any better than the old hollow tennis ball trick and more trackable as well.
  - JasonADrury 8mo ago
    > not really any better than the old hollow tennis ball trick and more trackable as well. Depends on the size of the prison and it's perimeter, but in many cases yeah.
  - Georgelemental 8mo ago
    Semi-trucks can get inspected, putting the driver at personal risk. With a drone, even if it is intercepted, the operator is safe
sidewndr46 8mo ago
isn't this more comparable to the incident where a US Navy ship shot down an Iranian aircraft. They somehow convinced themselves it was a lone attack aircraft coming to intercept them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

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iso1631 8mo ago
Yet the US government can't seem to parade the hundreds of drones they are surely catching with the new operating model? It seems 100% of the drones they have shot down are US government ones. Which is it 1) US government is deliberately avoiding the cartel ones 2) US government is completely incompetent and the cartel outmatch the might of the US military 3) The cartel isn't actually using drones 4) The US government have shot down dozens of drones but are keeping quiet about it
t-3 8mo ago
Drones are not perfectly reasonable when semi-trucks filled with literal tons of drugs pass the border every day. They are used to smuggle drugs into prisons, but not really any better than the old hollow tennis ball trick and more trackable as well.
- JasonADrury 8mo ago
  > not really any better than the old hollow tennis ball trick and more trackable as well. Depends on the size of the prison and it's perimeter, but in many cases yeah.
- Georgelemental 8mo ago
  Semi-trucks can get inspected, putting the driver at personal risk. With a drone, even if it is intercepted, the operator is safe

sidewndr46 8mo ago

isn't this more comparable to the incident where a US Navy ship shot down an Iranian aircraft. They somehow convinced themselves it was a lone attack aircraft coming to intercept them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655