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> how driven by ideals many folks at $Corporatron are Well let's see... it says in the post: * worked proactively to deploy our models to the Department o

> how driven by ideals many folks at $Corporatron are Well let's see... it says in the post: * worked proactively to deploy our models to the Department of War and the intelligence community. * the first frontier AI company to deploy our models in the US government’s classified networks, * the first to deploy them at the National Laboratories, and * the first to provide custom models for national security customers. * extensively deployed across the Department of War and other national security agencies * offered to work directly with the Department of War on R&D to improve the reliability of these systems * accelerating the adoption and use of our models within our armed forces to date. * never raised objections to particular military operations nor attempted to limit use of our technology in an ad hoc manner.

wrsh07 8mo ago
They didn't claim to have pacifist ideals In fact, they claim to be pro America and pro democracy and have repeatedly expressed concerns about autocratically governed countries. Just because you disagree with their ideals doesn't mean they're not holding to theirs
- leshow 8mo ago
  They sound exactly like George Bush and every other American leader who's claimed high minded ideals while they engage in interventions in direct contradiction to those ideals around the world
  - wrsh07 8mo ago
    To be clear, I don't think anthropic is itself intervening. The concerns they've raised about authoritarianism is "AI enabling authoritarians." When they push back on the US government wanting to use Claude to (legally) surveil US citizens, that still feels consistent to me as a concern about authoritarianism. I think it's reasonable to hear high minded ideals and become skeptical, but in this case I'm surprised that people are trying to accuse them of hypocrisy
mikkupikku 8mo ago
Lots of people driven by ideals work for the US military. Not me, ever, but other people certainly.

wrsh07 8mo ago

They didn't claim to have pacifist ideals In fact, they claim to be pro America and pro democracy and have repeatedly expressed concerns about autocratically governed countries. Just because you disagree with their ideals doesn't mean they're not holding to theirs

leshow 8mo ago
They sound exactly like George Bush and every other American leader who's claimed high minded ideals while they engage in interventions in direct contradiction to those ideals around the world
- wrsh07 8mo ago
  To be clear, I don't think anthropic is itself intervening. The concerns they've raised about authoritarianism is "AI enabling authoritarians." When they push back on the US government wanting to use Claude to (legally) surveil US citizens, that still feels consistent to me as a concern about authoritarianism. I think it's reasonable to hear high minded ideals and become skeptical, but in this case I'm surprised that people are trying to accuse them of hypocrisy

mikkupikku 8mo ago

Lots of people driven by ideals work for the US military. Not me, ever, but other people certainly.