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> I don't need to involve other conflicts in this situation. This is a "whataboutism". No, “whataboutism” is using shifting a conversation to a different issue

> I don't need to involve other conflicts in this situation. This is a "whataboutism". No, “whataboutism” is using shifting a conversation to a different issue. For example: Person A: "The democrats did X!" Person B: "But the republicans..." Person B is engaging in whataboutism. I am not discussing Hutu. What I am doing is I am providing you an example why the reasoning that majority is never wrong is a fallacy via an example. > Wrongful actions in another conflict do not justify future conflicts. The actions the world has seen do not simply go away because of your comment. Neither because of yours. Palestinians shoot rockets towards civilians for the past 20 years. Tells us quite a lot who’s the “genocidal” here. > I don't need to rehash every factual news article on the topic to justify my position, nor do I need you to rehash the glazing opinion pieces that justify yours; we won't move the needle that way, will we? I am not trying to change your mind. I am posting here for others to see your double standards and flaws in your reasoning. They will see and judge themselves. > All that I request is that you do not place an explosive device in a pager and send it to me, as that would be very inconsiderate; my neighbour works the night shift and the resulting shockwave would ruin his daytime sleep. Interesting choice of words here. Should I ask you not to blow yourself on the bus, or in a cafe? Or in a wedding? This is good that you wrote it, it shows exactly what I wanted to see.

mikestorrent 7mo ago
> Tells us quite a lot who’s the “genocidal” here. I'll just quote Wikipedia for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Gaza_war https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Gaza_war > As of 21 February 2026, at least 75,226 people (73,188+ Palestinians[4] and 2,039+ Israelis)[7][8][9][10] have been reported killed in the Gaza war according to the Gaza Health Ministry (GHM) and Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs, including 248 journalists and media workers,[11] 120 academics,[12] and over 224 humanitarian aid workers, a number that includes 179 employees of UNRWA.[13] Scholars have estimated 80% of Palestinians killed were civilians.[6][5][14] A study by OHCHR, which verified fatalities from three independent sources, found that 70% of the Palestinians killed in residential buildings or similar housing were women and children.[15][16] > Should I ask you not to blow yourself on the bus, or in a cafe? Nope, that's the wrong prejudice for my intersectional group, but it certainly reveals some of your own biases.
- reliabilityguy 7mo ago
  > I'll just quote Wikipedia for you: And? What do these figures tell you? You are accepting a very lazy explanation for the disparity in the number of casualties and calling a day. I will give you an example where with the same logic you will arrive to an unconventional conclusion. There was order of magnitudes more German civilians killed by the US forces during WW2 than the other way around. Does it mean that Nazi Germany are the good guys here? Probably no. One alternative explanation why there was more Palestinians killed than Israelis is because: 1. Israelis have shelters, so they have places to hide from rockets 2. Israelis have Iron Dome and alert systems to alert civilians of incoming rockets Palestinians did not have these things. Moreover, Gaza's government used underground facilities only for military purposes and did not allow civilians to hide there for the duration of hostilities. As a result, it is reasonable to assume that there will be more causalities on the side that has fewer defenses. But, you can stick to your intellectually lazy argument that paints a very specific picture. > Nope, that's the wrong prejudice for my intersectional group, but it certainly reveals some of your own biases. You have no idea what my biases are. You were the one who went with personal insinuations, not me. I just showed you that this type of discourse is not very productive as it lead nowhere. So, what did your pager anxiety outburst tell us about your biases?
  - mikestorrent 7mo ago
    > So, what did your pager anxiety outburst tell us about your biases? It told me to avoid public places for a few days until you move on to pestering some other commentator with your pro-genocide views.

mikestorrent 7mo ago

> Tells us quite a lot who’s the “genocidal” here. I'll just quote Wikipedia for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Gaza_war https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Gaza_war > As of 21 February 2026, at least 75,226 people (73,188+ Palestinians[4] and 2,039+ Israelis)[7][8][9][10] have been reported killed in the Gaza war according to the Gaza Health Ministry (GHM) and Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs, including 248 journalists and media workers,[11] 120 academics,[12] and over 224 humanitarian aid workers, a number that includes 179 employees of UNRWA.[13] Scholars have estimated 80% of Palestinians killed were civilians.[6][5][14] A study by OHCHR, which verified fatalities from three independent sources, found that 70% of the Palestinians killed in residential buildings or similar housing were women and children.[15][16] > Should I ask you not to blow yourself on the bus, or in a cafe? Nope, that's the wrong prejudice for my intersectional group, but it certainly reveals some of your own biases.

reliabilityguy 7mo ago
> I'll just quote Wikipedia for you: And? What do these figures tell you? You are accepting a very lazy explanation for the disparity in the number of casualties and calling a day. I will give you an example where with the same logic you will arrive to an unconventional conclusion. There was order of magnitudes more German civilians killed by the US forces during WW2 than the other way around. Does it mean that Nazi Germany are the good guys here? Probably no. One alternative explanation why there was more Palestinians killed than Israelis is because: 1. Israelis have shelters, so they have places to hide from rockets 2. Israelis have Iron Dome and alert systems to alert civilians of incoming rockets Palestinians did not have these things. Moreover, Gaza's government used underground facilities only for military purposes and did not allow civilians to hide there for the duration of hostilities. As a result, it is reasonable to assume that there will be more causalities on the side that has fewer defenses. But, you can stick to your intellectually lazy argument that paints a very specific picture. > Nope, that's the wrong prejudice for my intersectional group, but it certainly reveals some of your own biases. You have no idea what my biases are. You were the one who went with personal insinuations, not me. I just showed you that this type of discourse is not very productive as it lead nowhere. So, what did your pager anxiety outburst tell us about your biases?
- mikestorrent 7mo ago
  > So, what did your pager anxiety outburst tell us about your biases? It told me to avoid public places for a few days until you move on to pestering some other commentator with your pro-genocide views.