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The worst part of this is if they do remove Claude, and probably GPT, and Gemini soon after because of outcry we are going to be left with our military using fu
by impulser_ 7mo ago
The worst part of this is if they do remove Claude, and probably GPT, and Gemini soon after because of outcry we are going to be left with our military using fucking Grok as their model, a model that not even on par with open source Chinese models.
- alangibson 7mo agoYea but every warfighter will get a waifu
- popalchemist 7mo agoIt's better than actively aiding them. Make them struggle at every turn.
- impulser_ 7mo agoAre you Chinese? If not, I think you should prefer the people defending you to have the best tools to do so.
- GolfPopper 7mo agoIf the American military was focused on defending the United States, it would be a very different beast. The 21st Century American military is a tool for transferring wealth from the public to influential parties, and for inflicting destruction on non-peer nations who pose obstacles to influential parties interests. Defending the United States against various often-invoked hobgoblins is at best a very distant concern, closer to pure lip service than reality.
- georgemcbay 7mo agoI'm a natural-born American (many generations back) and firmly believe that if we ever get into a hot war with China, it will be because of American provocation, not Chinese.
- mikeyouse 7mo agoThis of course raises the question on whether as an American I have more to fear from the Chinese government or the US one.. given everything happening in the Executive Branch here, that’s a disappointingly hard question to answer.
- impulser_ 7mo agoI think that's an easy question to answer, but obviously you don't fear the Chinese government you're not a Chinese citizen. You can actively talk about your disagreements with the US government, that not a right the Chinese have.
- popalchemist 7mo agoCan you? By ICE agents' own admission on video, they have been adding people to "domestic terrorist" watchlists (just for verbally dissenting, making recordings with a phone, etc) which are then used by Palantir to disappear people directly from their homes - even US citizens. Palantir, the CEO of which gleefully admits to knowing many Nazis and seems to get off on the fact that his software "kills people" (direct quote).
- krapp 7mo ago>that’s a disappointingly hard question to answer It shouldn't be. The US government is already sending armed and masked thugs to shoot political dissidents dead or sending them to concentration camps, threatening state governments and private companies to comply with suppressing free speech and oppressing undesirables, and openly discussing using emergency powers to suspend the next election. What exactly is the commensurate threat from China? The real tacit threat, not abstract fears like "TikTok is Chinese mind control." What can China actually do to you, an American, that the US isn't already more capable of doing, and more likely to do? To me it isn't even a question. Even comparing worst case scenarios - open war with China versus civil war within the US - the latter is more of a threat to citizens of the US than the former unless the nukes drop. And even then, the only nation to ever use nuclear weapons in warfare is the US.
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- 8note 7mo agobut the "people defending you" have been commiting clear and obvious war crimes?
- popalchemist 7mo agoI am American born and raised and I consider our current government mass murderers who I trust as much as I would have the Nazis. It was a good thing that the Nazis did not get the a-bomb before us, and the same principle applies here. The fewer magnifiers of their power the better. They are a scourge on human rights, and the world.
- Jolter 7mo agoThe Department of War under Trump has proven itself to not be interested in defending you, the American people. All they’ve done so far is aggression against foreign supposed adversaries.
- int_19h 7mo ago> Are you Chinese? If not, I think you should prefer the people defending you to have the best tools to do so. They already have the best and most expensive toys in the world, and they mostly seem to be waging aggressive wars with them. Perhaps if the toys weren't so shiny and didn't make it all so one-sided, they wouldn't?
- techblueberry 7mo agoApparently part of this whole battle is because Grok isn't up to part to be an acceptable alternative.
- ternwer 7mo agoAs far as we can tell, OpenAI and Google seem to be ok with it and not resisting. It would be easier for Anthropic's cause if they did.
- mattnewton 7mo agoI think the warfighters are a distraction, a system could trivially say that there is a human in the loop for LLM-derived kill lists. My money is that the mass domestic surveillance is the true sticking point, because it’s exactly what you would use a LLM for today.
- klooney 7mo agoGrok in unhinged mode piloting an Apache, what could go wrong.