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I was a little tongue and cheek, but also serious. No left-wing violence is generally labelled as such... If it's a left-wing anti-govt group, still gets label

I was a little tongue and cheek, but also serious. No left-wing violence is generally labelled as such... If it's a left-wing anti-govt group, still gets labelled as right-wing violence, for example, because anti-govt always labelled as right-wing. All the Floyd riots, none of it ever labelled as left-wing violence.

krapp 8mo ago
> All the Floyd riots, none of it ever labelled as left-wing violence. Yes it was, by the right (including the current administration.) People on the right (including plenty here on HN) literally called BLM a "violent Marxist terrorist organization" that "burned entire cities to the ground." ICE protests are called "violent leftist extremism." Anyone ICE shoots dead was a violent leftist terrorist all along. Protesting Israel is violent leftist antisemitism. Making jokes about Charlie Kirk only shows how bloodthirsty and violent the left is. Every single US mass shooting is linked to "stochastic leftist violence" regardless of the shooter's actual politics.
- tracker1 8mo ago
  Right leaning news orgs, sure... but not "unbiased" statistics bodies that tend to get referenced.
  - krapp 8mo ago
    What "unbiased" statistics bodies are you referring to? It's really annoying when people talk around what they actually want to say. It's clear you're accusing someone or something of bias against the right, and you're using absolute terms for something relative. Just come out with it.
    - tracker1 8mo ago
      I think some of the ADL reports in particular, I know there's other groups that I've seen in the past... with ADL in particular, there's been several cases that are either not logged, or classified as right wing when it should have been left. specifically anti-govt left/communist groups... anti-govt seems to always get classified as right-wing, as an example. I didn't expressly want to spend a bunch of time looking things up that I hadn't seen in a few months and wouldn't be fresh in my mind on what/where to search... that's the only reason for the vagueness. edit: I'm human... I can remember a lot of things, but not always specific context or what/where I read a given article on a subject, or the specific video to even search for if it was so. Often in these scenarios, where facing pushback, I'll actually spend the time to try to lookup things based on recollection and sometimes the searches go better or worse, I just don't have the time or inclination at the moment. I'm not trying to be obtuse or cagey, just real.
mindslight 8mo ago
Blue media downplays leftist violence, red media downplays rightist violence. Not terribly difficult to understand nor is it surprising. It sounds like you're just focusing on one camp of media, using it as a straw man to beat.

krapp 8mo ago

> All the Floyd riots, none of it ever labelled as left-wing violence. Yes it was, by the right (including the current administration.) People on the right (including plenty here on HN) literally called BLM a "violent Marxist terrorist organization" that "burned entire cities to the ground." ICE protests are called "violent leftist extremism." Anyone ICE shoots dead was a violent leftist terrorist all along. Protesting Israel is violent leftist antisemitism. Making jokes about Charlie Kirk only shows how bloodthirsty and violent the left is. Every single US mass shooting is linked to "stochastic leftist violence" regardless of the shooter's actual politics.

tracker1 8mo ago
Right leaning news orgs, sure... but not "unbiased" statistics bodies that tend to get referenced.
- krapp 8mo ago
  What "unbiased" statistics bodies are you referring to? It's really annoying when people talk around what they actually want to say. It's clear you're accusing someone or something of bias against the right, and you're using absolute terms for something relative. Just come out with it.
  - tracker1 8mo ago
    I think some of the ADL reports in particular, I know there's other groups that I've seen in the past... with ADL in particular, there's been several cases that are either not logged, or classified as right wing when it should have been left. specifically anti-govt left/communist groups... anti-govt seems to always get classified as right-wing, as an example. I didn't expressly want to spend a bunch of time looking things up that I hadn't seen in a few months and wouldn't be fresh in my mind on what/where to search... that's the only reason for the vagueness. edit: I'm human... I can remember a lot of things, but not always specific context or what/where I read a given article on a subject, or the specific video to even search for if it was so. Often in these scenarios, where facing pushback, I'll actually spend the time to try to lookup things based on recollection and sometimes the searches go better or worse, I just don't have the time or inclination at the moment. I'm not trying to be obtuse or cagey, just real.

mindslight 8mo ago

Blue media downplays leftist violence, red media downplays rightist violence. Not terribly difficult to understand nor is it surprising. It sounds like you're just focusing on one camp of media, using it as a straw man to beat.