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You would like the film The Conversation (1974).

ProllyInfamous 8mo ago
For a second I thought this was the Mel Gibson movie where he proves a Conspiracy Theory (1997)... but Gene Hackman, post-Watergate — with an ensemble cast of eavesdroppers?! — tonight's movie, decided. Thank you for your recommendation - it be crazy up in here (head, country, world).
- jasomill 8mo ago
  Directed by Francis Ford Coppola, Palme d'Or at Cannes, three Oscar nominations including Best Picture (which, amusingly, it lost to The Godfather Part II). Great movie.
  - ProllyInfamous 8mo ago
    In all fairness, Part II is absolutely incredible storytelling. Are you suggesting The Conversation is even better?! So excited for tonight's showtime — I'll make an updated reply here, tomorrow morning (with my viewreport).
    - JKCalhoun 8mo ago
      I think they were simply musing as to how one Coppola film lost to another.
      - ProllyInfamous 8mo ago
        [headsmack] gotcha, of course... ---- Just finished The Conversation (Godfather II rightly won best film); although it features a neat plot twist, I cannot imagine this film being re-watchable. Gene Hackman definitely acts his paranoid heart out, but his relationships with other characters are stuffy/forced. Too much dead air whenever he gets frustrated, almost as if there wasn't time to reshoot any scenes. The cinematography/editing is fine, but the sound quality is terrible (presume it only won best soundtrack due to new sound warping/garbling techniques — to a modern listener, it's also sort of a cheap schtick). Particularly with female speakers, subtitles are necessary; but then certain dramatic points are wayyyy too loud. ---- Thanks again for the rec — actually makes me less paranoid about the modern world... just gonna play some sax uncaringly =P
  - rsync 8mo ago
    … also starring Harrison ford…
    - ProllyInfamous 8mo ago
      I'm watching this right now... Ford is ssoo yyoouunngg! It also has Frodo from Godfather.
- teachrdan 8mo ago
  One fan theory is that Gene Hackman plays the same character, decades later, in Enemy of the State (1998).
  - ProllyInfamous 8mo ago
    I'll have to rewatch EofState, after tonights Conversation. Fan theories are the only way I ever finished DFWallace's trifecta (2000 pages of gruelling chaos). Thank god for fans.
dizhn 8mo ago
Enemy of the State is a pretty good light weight successor of that movie as well. It's such a fun watch too. (RIP Gene Hackman)
- ProllyInfamous 8mo ago
  I just finished re-watching EotS — really advanced tech portrayal for a late-90s film. Quote (from movie): "just think, all this technology is already twenty years old..." Much better than The Conversation, but the links were uncanny (including Hackman's line: "yeah this has been my office where I do things for a long time*" — and it's the same set[up]). EotS honestly has the best death finale scene I've ever seen (not being hyperbolic, the best). Don't want to spoil it }:D ------>
  - dizhn 8mo ago
    I love a few scenes. My favorite is the mob restaurant scene with the "tape" business. The whole thing is great. However in terms of tech, there's the scene where they have CCTV footage from the lingerie store where the top dog wants the operator to see the other side of the package and asks if it's possible. The answer is not the typical CSI "zoom in .. there!" but goes like "the computer can take us to the other side?" , "it can hypothesize". Still not exactly super accurate in terms of possibility but I think AI nowadays would actually do precisely that, hypothesize and show you something.
    - ProllyInfamous 8mo ago
      >the mob restaurant scene Best sudden-shootout scene in any movie ever, IMHO. >hypotehsizing LLMs can definitely hypothesize. I'm about a third of the way into Cormac McCarthy's major works, and he definitely makes several interesting arguments on what he considers [enough] for consciousness [to exist]. His short essay on Benzene's discovery [0] is quite interesting (about languageless communication) if you can entertain œtherial out of body influence(s)... [0] The Kukule Problem

For a second I thought this was the Mel Gibson movie where he proves a Conspiracy Theory (1997)... but Gene Hackman, post-Watergate — with an ensemble cast of eavesdroppers?! — tonight's movie, decided. Thank you for your recommendation - it be crazy up in here (head, country, world).

jasomill 8mo ago
Directed by Francis Ford Coppola, Palme d'Or at Cannes, three Oscar nominations including Best Picture (which, amusingly, it lost to The Godfather Part II). Great movie.
- ProllyInfamous 8mo ago
  In all fairness, Part II is absolutely incredible storytelling. Are you suggesting The Conversation is even better?! So excited for tonight's showtime — I'll make an updated reply here, tomorrow morning (with my viewreport).
  - JKCalhoun 8mo ago
    I think they were simply musing as to how one Coppola film lost to another.
    - ProllyInfamous 8mo ago
      [headsmack] gotcha, of course... ---- Just finished The Conversation (Godfather II rightly won best film); although it features a neat plot twist, I cannot imagine this film being re-watchable. Gene Hackman definitely acts his paranoid heart out, but his relationships with other characters are stuffy/forced. Too much dead air whenever he gets frustrated, almost as if there wasn't time to reshoot any scenes. The cinematography/editing is fine, but the sound quality is terrible (presume it only won best soundtrack due to new sound warping/garbling techniques — to a modern listener, it's also sort of a cheap schtick). Particularly with female speakers, subtitles are necessary; but then certain dramatic points are wayyyy too loud. ---- Thanks again for the rec — actually makes me less paranoid about the modern world... just gonna play some sax uncaringly =P
- rsync 8mo ago
  … also starring Harrison ford…
  - ProllyInfamous 8mo ago
    I'm watching this right now... Ford is ssoo yyoouunngg! It also has Frodo from Godfather.
teachrdan 8mo ago
One fan theory is that Gene Hackman plays the same character, decades later, in Enemy of the State (1998).
- ProllyInfamous 8mo ago
  I'll have to rewatch EofState, after tonights Conversation. Fan theories are the only way I ever finished DFWallace's trifecta (2000 pages of gruelling chaos). Thank god for fans.

dizhn 8mo ago

Enemy of the State is a pretty good light weight successor of that movie as well. It's such a fun watch too. (RIP Gene Hackman)

ProllyInfamous 8mo ago
I just finished re-watching EotS — really advanced tech portrayal for a late-90s film. Quote (from movie): "just think, all this technology is already twenty years old..." Much better than The Conversation, but the links were uncanny (including Hackman's line: "yeah this has been my office where I do things for a long time*" — and it's the same set[up]). EotS honestly has the best death finale scene I've ever seen (not being hyperbolic, the best). Don't want to spoil it }:D ------>
- dizhn 8mo ago
  I love a few scenes. My favorite is the mob restaurant scene with the "tape" business. The whole thing is great. However in terms of tech, there's the scene where they have CCTV footage from the lingerie store where the top dog wants the operator to see the other side of the package and asks if it's possible. The answer is not the typical CSI "zoom in .. there!" but goes like "the computer can take us to the other side?" , "it can hypothesize". Still not exactly super accurate in terms of possibility but I think AI nowadays would actually do precisely that, hypothesize and show you something.
  - ProllyInfamous 8mo ago
    >the mob restaurant scene Best sudden-shootout scene in any movie ever, IMHO. >hypotehsizing LLMs can definitely hypothesize. I'm about a third of the way into Cormac McCarthy's major works, and he definitely makes several interesting arguments on what he considers [enough] for consciousness [to exist]. His short essay on Benzene's discovery [0] is quite interesting (about languageless communication) if you can entertain œtherial out of body influence(s)... [0] The Kukule Problem