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I had the impression "NVE" was used to avoid describing folks like the Butler PA shooter, Charlie Kirk's assassin, and this last would be lone gunman as conserv
by bediger4000 8mo ago
I had the impression "NVE" was used to avoid describing folks like the Butler PA shooter, Charlie Kirk's assassin, and this last would be lone gunman as conservatives.
- saghm 8mo agoAnd yet if you say that on television the administration will try to pull you off the air: https://www.npr.org/2025/09/18/nx-s1-5544559/abc-jimmy-kimmel-comments-charlie-kirk https://www.npr.org/2025/09/18/nx-s1-5544559/abc-jimmy-kimme... The parent comment is warning about the potential for a false representation of a crisis being used to grab more power; the underlying facts being inconsistent with the supposed crisis is not particularly surprising
- alphawhisky 8mo agoThat's exactly it. These people were not disillusioned with the whole world, just their political party.
- akramachamarei 8mo ago> to avoid describing […] Kirk's assassin [as conservative] That was a bit of a canard, though, right? Did anyone seriously think he was a conservative? I thought this was just another mental gymnastics act in the Whataboutism Circus. With some photo fabrication to support it, according to Wikipedia.
- bediger4000 8mo agoI mean, yes, you can do the "No true conservative" the same way you can do "No true Scotsman". Doesn't invalidate the point of using "NVE" to avoid describing a number of assassins or would be assassins as conservatives.
- akramachamarei 8mo agoI wasn't trying to invalidate your point, just pointing out one of the examples was wrong. I have no idea about the others.