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Providing it for convenience is fine. Having to accept the terms of conditions of Google or Apple as the only way is insane.

by gspr 8mo ago

testfrequency 8mo ago
Don’t accept the terms then? What is even the point of this comment when you are provided with an alternative as you make your way through the form. I feel like everyone I’m responding to just hates Apple/Google and is running GrapheneOS without play services so they hate public apps.
- koakuma-chan 8mo ago
  No, installing apps is just genuinely bad UX, at least for me, because my password manager doesn't work in apps, and I have to manually generate and copy and paste password. If creators of the app are extra stupid, they make it so that you cannot paste into the password input, so I have to enter the generated password character by character.
  - klausa 8mo ago
    You use a broken password manager, and you think this is a problem with _apps_?
    - koakuma-chan 8mo ago
      And why is it broken? Is there a way for a password manager app to somehow inspect other apps and identify forms within them and interact with the forms?
      - klausa 8mo ago
        ...yes? I can't tell if you're trolling at this point or genuinely unaware. Both iOS and Android have APIs for this, you (as the app developer) just mark the relevant fields in the app as login/password/etc, and the OS will interact with your chosen password manager to autofill and/or save them.
        koakuma-chan 8mo ago
        Well then I don't know whom to blame, 1Password or app developers not marking the fields correctly.
        klausa 8mo ago
        If you've never seen this work on your device, then you might have something configured incorrectly — many app developers are incompetent and bad at this; but not _all_ of them.
        koakuma-chan 8mo ago
        It works for filling an existing password, but not for creating a new one, iOS still prompts me to fill existing even though I'm on the sign up page. On the web 1Password can also automatically generate a Fastmail masked email address, but I doubt there's any hope for that to work in a native app.

Providing it for convenience is fine. Having to accept the terms of conditions of Google or Apple as the only way is insane.

by gspr 8mo ago

Providing it for convenience is fine. Having to accept the terms of conditions of Google or Apple as the only way is insane.

testfrequency 8mo ago

Don’t accept the terms then? What is even the point of this comment when you are provided with an alternative as you make your way through the form. I feel like everyone I’m responding to just hates Apple/Google and is running GrapheneOS without play services so they hate public apps.

koakuma-chan 8mo ago
No, installing apps is just genuinely bad UX, at least for me, because my password manager doesn't work in apps, and I have to manually generate and copy and paste password. If creators of the app are extra stupid, they make it so that you cannot paste into the password input, so I have to enter the generated password character by character.
- klausa 8mo ago
  You use a broken password manager, and you think this is a problem with _apps_?
  - koakuma-chan 8mo ago
    And why is it broken? Is there a way for a password manager app to somehow inspect other apps and identify forms within them and interact with the forms?
    - klausa 8mo ago
      ...yes? I can't tell if you're trolling at this point or genuinely unaware. Both iOS and Android have APIs for this, you (as the app developer) just mark the relevant fields in the app as login/password/etc, and the OS will interact with your chosen password manager to autofill and/or save them.
      - koakuma-chan 8mo ago
        Well then I don't know whom to blame, 1Password or app developers not marking the fields correctly.
        klausa 8mo ago
        If you've never seen this work on your device, then you might have something configured incorrectly — many app developers are incompetent and bad at this; but not _all_ of them.
        koakuma-chan 8mo ago
        It works for filling an existing password, but not for creating a new one, iOS still prompts me to fill existing even though I'm on the sign up page. On the web 1Password can also automatically generate a Fastmail masked email address, but I doubt there's any hope for that to work in a native app.