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That's why I see AI (with a clear set of provided objectives and guidelines, i.e., a constitution) as the future of government. As dystopian as that sounds, it

That's why I see AI (with a clear set of provided objectives and guidelines, i.e., a constitution) as the future of government. As dystopian as that sounds, it's the only way I see to truly rid ourselves of corruption.

dylan604 8mo ago
I don't know how any AI system would not eventually determine that humans are the problem. Sci-fi uses this as a plot numerous times for a reason. What humans are doing is not logical, and better choices can be made if it weren't so damn profitable for some to keep going as is.
jdejean 8mo ago
Why would AI at that scale not have the exact corruptible inclination humans have?
- rudhdb773b 8mo ago
  Because unlike natural life, which has evolved to be highly competitive and self-interested, we would explicitly set the AI's objectives to always benefit society.
  - danaris 8mo ago
    And why would the people in power be willing to do that?
    - rudhdb773b 8mo ago
      That will definitely be a problem, but I suspect and hope that there will be governing AI models that can be "prompted" with clear and concise instructions that will be demonstrably free of bias towards any group, either by a direct reading or by evaluation with trusted 3rd party models. If the public does not trust the fairness of the AI prompt, that will hopefully lead to revolution and replacement of the prompt with something more principled, similar to how rigged elections (sometimes) trigger revolutions.
rush86999 8mo ago
This is an incomplete thought. A strong checks and balances without influence of bias, relationships, and politics can be implemented using a 2-way blind system where: 1. decision makers (of sound judgement) are not aware of any identifiable information related to any users on whom the decision will be made, nor of each other. 2. Users are not aware of the decision makers who will decide on them, nor of each other. Possibly AI can play a role here, but a strong system of checks & balances would be a prerequisite for this. The justice system would definitely benefit from this.

dylan604 8mo ago

I don't know how any AI system would not eventually determine that humans are the problem. Sci-fi uses this as a plot numerous times for a reason. What humans are doing is not logical, and better choices can be made if it weren't so damn profitable for some to keep going as is.

jdejean 8mo ago

Why would AI at that scale not have the exact corruptible inclination humans have?

rudhdb773b 8mo ago
Because unlike natural life, which has evolved to be highly competitive and self-interested, we would explicitly set the AI's objectives to always benefit society.
- danaris 8mo ago
  And why would the people in power be willing to do that?
  - rudhdb773b 8mo ago
    That will definitely be a problem, but I suspect and hope that there will be governing AI models that can be "prompted" with clear and concise instructions that will be demonstrably free of bias towards any group, either by a direct reading or by evaluation with trusted 3rd party models. If the public does not trust the fairness of the AI prompt, that will hopefully lead to revolution and replacement of the prompt with something more principled, similar to how rigged elections (sometimes) trigger revolutions.

rush86999 8mo ago

This is an incomplete thought. A strong checks and balances without influence of bias, relationships, and politics can be implemented using a 2-way blind system where: 1. decision makers (of sound judgement) are not aware of any identifiable information related to any users on whom the decision will be made, nor of each other. 2. Users are not aware of the decision makers who will decide on them, nor of each other. Possibly AI can play a role here, but a strong system of checks & balances would be a prerequisite for this. The justice system would definitely benefit from this.