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Your opinion of the US is too high. >Israel, by contrast, systematically murdered civilians, I'm not willing to ignore the US's propensity for bombing wedding
by slg 8mo ago
Your opinion of the US is too high.
>Israel, by contrast, systematically murdered civilians,
I'm not willing to ignore the US's propensity for bombing weddings.[1][2][3][4][5]
>journalists
Or the notorious Collateral Murder strikes.[6]
> starved a civilian population with impunity and with government intent
I already hit on this with the mentioning of Gaza's population density and the mechanics of war. Gaza is much smaller and denser which means that the same bomb dropped there will kill more people and destroy more infrastructure than in Iraq or Afghanistan. That has caused a larger percentage of the arable land in Gaza to be destroyed and they already had less of it to begin with. This had made them more reliant on Israel. The US simply didn't have the opportunity to control the food supply in the same way and I'm not willing to categorize a lack of opportunity as evidence of a lack of intent. And despite that all, the long tail of the US's actions still has led to a food crisis.[7]
>Just read the reprehensible words of some of the current Israeli cabinet. Not some radical fringe, but the actual Israeli cabinet.... The current "administration" is a disgusting body, and the Zionist ideology, in its current form, is an absurd, preposterous ideology which gives birth to a population who dehumanise their "enemy" in exactly the same way as the Nazis dehumanised the Jews
If we're talking "reprehensible words" and dehumanization, it hasn't even been two weeks since a US congressperson said that Muslims were below dogs. The US has the benefit of two extra decades of hindsight and many still haven't learned the lesson you're discussing.[8].
I genuinely think you should read through some of this[9]. It sounds like it might open your eyes to the US's actual record of behavior.
[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wech_Baghtu_wedding_party_airstrike https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wech_Baghtu_wedding_party_airs...
[2] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haska_Meyna_wedding_party_airstrike https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haska_Meyna_wedding_party_airs...
[3] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukaradeeb_wedding_party_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukaradeeb_wedding_party_massa...
[4] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruzgan_wedding_bombing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruzgan_wedding_bombing
[5] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Radda_airstrike https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Radda_airstrike
[6] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_12,_2007,_Baghdad_airstrike https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_12,_2007,_Baghdad_airstri...
[7] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025%E2%80%932026_hunger_crisis_in_Afghanistan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025%E2%80%932026_hunger_crisi...
[8] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Fine#Muslims https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Fine#Muslims
[9] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes#War_on_terror https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes#War_o...
- LightBug1 8mo agoThanks for the links. I'm afraid I won't click on them because I'm not sure what we're disagreeing on now, so probably a good moment to end this. I'll absolutely call the US a power hungry monster that has inflicted genocide on many people. Israel has done the same from the point of view of a perverse, religious-nationalist ideology. Not much point splitting hairs on that one.