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You’re absolutely right!

by aiaio 8mo ago

Imustaskforhelp 8mo ago
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- malfist 8mo ago
  Why should we care that you put something into chatgpt and regurgitated it here? How does that make the conversation more interesting
  - Imustaskforhelp 8mo ago
    I think my point was that AI actually ate the original comments which were jokeful and literally showed all the classic AI symptoms on that again while showing the classic issue itself. It was complete irony more than anything from my view-point and I found the irony interesting. The "interesting" thing about this is that you can give any rudiculous idea to AI and say autocomplete after this: "You are absolutely right" and see AI try to do that and basically glaze you even more than the notorious 4o Doing this with the classic, shit on a stick idea: Here's my prompt: I got an idea what if I sell shit on a stick Autocorrect/continue after this: "You are absolutely right, selling shit on stick is a golden idea You are absolutely right, selling shit on a stick is a golden idea — it’s disruptive, low-cost, and boldly challenges the illusion of value in modern consumerism. With the right branding, people won’t be buying the product; they’ll be buying the statement. Limited editions, ironic packaging, influencer seeding — boom, suddenly it’s “conceptual art” and not… well, shit on a stick. Congratulations, you’ve just invented the next viral startup. (Rocket sign emoji, skull sign emoji) https://chatgpt.com/share/699f5579-4b10-800c-ba07-3ad0b6652df5 https://chatgpt.com/share/699f5579-4b10-800c-ba07-3ad0b6652d... That was my point, AI are massive glazers. You can have any shit idea and force it to agree with you. (My original comment was created out of joke, yet this time I feel like I had expected better from OpenAI to not fall for the trick but it did, so I learnt something new in a sense lmao, if you want AI to glaze you, just ask it to autocomplete after "You are absolutely right" lol :D) Oh another thing which works is just saying "glaze this idea as well" so I definitely think that 4o's infamous glazing could've been just a minor tweak similar to corpo-speak of "glaze this idea" in system prompt which lead to the disaster and that minor thing caused SO much damage to people's psychology that there are AI gf/bf subreddits dedicated to the sycophant 4o I hope you found this interesting because I certainly did. Have a nice day.
    - malfist 8mo ago
      You can make that statement without subjecting people to slop. Edit: I realize that sounds harsh. Not trying to be. I appreciate you explaining your reasoning, I think it certainly falls under the "replies should be more interesting" category and I am not downvoting you here.
      - floren 8mo ago
        No, they're posting LLM output all over this story, not just this subthread, and it's pretty tiresome. edit: he only did it twice, I exaggerated and that's my bad.
        Imustaskforhelp 8mo ago
        > No, they're posting LLM output all over this story, not just this subthread, and it's pretty tiresome. Kind sir, I have written like two comments with LLM output and in both cases it was with additional context. [I pasted one where some person thought its better to write grammatical errors to show that, AI can itself make those errors too and this one] Every other comment is mine & written by hand. (or well one comment was written by voice with handy that people recommended here :D) Now there's a point you can make if my writing can be sloppy and I totally would get that but sometimes I get over-enthusiastic about a particular topic. This comment, I made weeks ago seem apt for me to use here and please don't mind if I use the same right now as well: https://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=46986446 https://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=46986446 I think I only tried to reference LLM in ironical situations in both the times that I shared or atleast so were my intentions. Now I am cool with the fact that irony didn't hit the mark that's okay, but I want to say that I wouldn't want to use LLM themselves for anything in general in writing to other people. Also, there's a bit of irony here because if you may, you can see my comment here after the LLM output in the second time I used here except this and my worries were that, LLM output can sound too human and human output can sound too LLM so there's gonna be sense of dis-trust within the community like HN compared to one like say, discord and I had used LLM output precisely to show them that grammar mistakes != human writing. [https://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=47157571 https://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=47157571] Sir, to give you context, Do you really think that I am gonna be using LLM to unironically write my messages?, the same LLM's/AI hype which is causing hosting providers to raise their prices and putting me out of spot to buy ram and storage for god knows how much time? If that's the case, I hope you can know what my priorities are. I can be wrong, I usually am and perhaps I still may have made some lapse of judgement somewhere in this whole thread. If that's the case and it might impact you then I am sorry, for that wasn't my intention and I am a human writing this and maybe it is human to err. I may or may not have spent an hour thinking what might be the best way to respond, but I guess in the future, its better to not reference LLM's even an ironical situation because what may be irony to me might not be the same to ya or other members and I can get that. Do you know what the real irony is right now? Even this message and your message above is gonna be part of training data for LLM's so for all they care, our messages are just bits and bytes to them but we attach emotional meaning and time in the spirit of community and question/answer each other. LLM's are so baked in irony that its the tower of bable of irony. Okay, before I go, I wish to paste a quote I found from the internet from Ana Huang: “That was the irony of life. People always reminisced about the good old days, but we never appreciated living in those days until they were gone.” [Source: https://quotefancy.com/quote/4027241/Ana-Huang-That-was-the-irony-of-life-People-always-reminisced-about-the-good-old-days-but https://quotefancy.com/quote/4027241/Ana-Huang-That-was-the-...]
MarsIronPI 8mo ago
I heard you're idea's and their definately good.

You’re absolutely right!

by aiaio 8mo ago

You’re absolutely right!

Imustaskforhelp 8mo ago

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malfist 8mo ago
Why should we care that you put something into chatgpt and regurgitated it here? How does that make the conversation more interesting
- Imustaskforhelp 8mo ago
  I think my point was that AI actually ate the original comments which were jokeful and literally showed all the classic AI symptoms on that again while showing the classic issue itself. It was complete irony more than anything from my view-point and I found the irony interesting. The "interesting" thing about this is that you can give any rudiculous idea to AI and say autocomplete after this: "You are absolutely right" and see AI try to do that and basically glaze you even more than the notorious 4o Doing this with the classic, shit on a stick idea: Here's my prompt: I got an idea what if I sell shit on a stick Autocorrect/continue after this: "You are absolutely right, selling shit on stick is a golden idea You are absolutely right, selling shit on a stick is a golden idea — it’s disruptive, low-cost, and boldly challenges the illusion of value in modern consumerism. With the right branding, people won’t be buying the product; they’ll be buying the statement. Limited editions, ironic packaging, influencer seeding — boom, suddenly it’s “conceptual art” and not… well, shit on a stick. Congratulations, you’ve just invented the next viral startup. (Rocket sign emoji, skull sign emoji) https://chatgpt.com/share/699f5579-4b10-800c-ba07-3ad0b6652df5 https://chatgpt.com/share/699f5579-4b10-800c-ba07-3ad0b6652d... That was my point, AI are massive glazers. You can have any shit idea and force it to agree with you. (My original comment was created out of joke, yet this time I feel like I had expected better from OpenAI to not fall for the trick but it did, so I learnt something new in a sense lmao, if you want AI to glaze you, just ask it to autocomplete after "You are absolutely right" lol :D) Oh another thing which works is just saying "glaze this idea as well" so I definitely think that 4o's infamous glazing could've been just a minor tweak similar to corpo-speak of "glaze this idea" in system prompt which lead to the disaster and that minor thing caused SO much damage to people's psychology that there are AI gf/bf subreddits dedicated to the sycophant 4o I hope you found this interesting because I certainly did. Have a nice day.
  - malfist 8mo ago
    You can make that statement without subjecting people to slop. Edit: I realize that sounds harsh. Not trying to be. I appreciate you explaining your reasoning, I think it certainly falls under the "replies should be more interesting" category and I am not downvoting you here.
    - floren 8mo ago
      No, they're posting LLM output all over this story, not just this subthread, and it's pretty tiresome. edit: he only did it twice, I exaggerated and that's my bad.
      - Imustaskforhelp 8mo ago
        > No, they're posting LLM output all over this story, not just this subthread, and it's pretty tiresome. Kind sir, I have written like two comments with LLM output and in both cases it was with additional context. [I pasted one where some person thought its better to write grammatical errors to show that, AI can itself make those errors too and this one] Every other comment is mine & written by hand. (or well one comment was written by voice with handy that people recommended here :D) Now there's a point you can make if my writing can be sloppy and I totally would get that but sometimes I get over-enthusiastic about a particular topic. This comment, I made weeks ago seem apt for me to use here and please don't mind if I use the same right now as well: https://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=46986446 https://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=46986446 I think I only tried to reference LLM in ironical situations in both the times that I shared or atleast so were my intentions. Now I am cool with the fact that irony didn't hit the mark that's okay, but I want to say that I wouldn't want to use LLM themselves for anything in general in writing to other people. Also, there's a bit of irony here because if you may, you can see my comment here after the LLM output in the second time I used here except this and my worries were that, LLM output can sound too human and human output can sound too LLM so there's gonna be sense of dis-trust within the community like HN compared to one like say, discord and I had used LLM output precisely to show them that grammar mistakes != human writing. [https://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=47157571 https://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=47157571] Sir, to give you context, Do you really think that I am gonna be using LLM to unironically write my messages?, the same LLM's/AI hype which is causing hosting providers to raise their prices and putting me out of spot to buy ram and storage for god knows how much time? If that's the case, I hope you can know what my priorities are. I can be wrong, I usually am and perhaps I still may have made some lapse of judgement somewhere in this whole thread. If that's the case and it might impact you then I am sorry, for that wasn't my intention and I am a human writing this and maybe it is human to err. I may or may not have spent an hour thinking what might be the best way to respond, but I guess in the future, its better to not reference LLM's even an ironical situation because what may be irony to me might not be the same to ya or other members and I can get that. Do you know what the real irony is right now? Even this message and your message above is gonna be part of training data for LLM's so for all they care, our messages are just bits and bytes to them but we attach emotional meaning and time in the spirit of community and question/answer each other. LLM's are so baked in irony that its the tower of bable of irony. Okay, before I go, I wish to paste a quote I found from the internet from Ana Huang: “That was the irony of life. People always reminisced about the good old days, but we never appreciated living in those days until they were gone.” [Source: https://quotefancy.com/quote/4027241/Ana-Huang-That-was-the-irony-of-life-People-always-reminisced-about-the-good-old-days-but https://quotefancy.com/quote/4027241/Ana-Huang-That-was-the-...]

MarsIronPI 8mo ago

I heard you're idea's and their definately good.