In theory, comments on Hacker News should advance discussion and meet a certain quality bar lest they be downvoted to make room for the ones that meet the crite

In theory, comments on Hacker News should advance discussion and meet a certain quality bar lest they be downvoted to make room for the ones that meet the criteria. I am not sure if this ever was true in practice, it certainly seems to have waned in the years I have been a reader of this forum (see one of the many pelican on a bike comments on any AI model release thread), but I'd expect some people still try to vote with this in mind. Being sarcastic doesn't lower the bar for a comment to meet to not get downvoted, so I wouldn't go thinking people miss the sarcasm without first considering whether the comment adds to the discussion when wondering why a comment is downvoted.