> Is Java making a comeback? Hell Yes and it is coming back big time The title of this posting is deceptive wrt its content, an advert for Grails, a web framew

> Is Java making a comeback? Hell Yes and it is coming back big time The title of this posting is deceptive wrt its content, an advert for Grails, a web framework for the JVM. The OP (jeffthorne) was created just to submit and comment on this. > Grails48 ("The World's Hackathon") is a global non-profit community driven initiative In my long experience watching the Groovy and Grails community, nothing about them is ever "non-profit". They're run by a large corporate (EDS / VMWare), which seem to have stringent revenue requirements for the employees involved with Groovy and Grails, hence the constant splurge of heavily promoted conferences and "events". The language in this blurb (e.g. "hackers and entrepreneurs are re-grouping and mounting a new attack", "key partnerships in helping breathe life back into startup activity") gives an idea who the target demographic is. As for "community driven", the various Groovy forums seem to be populated by many phantom users, I presume controlled by a handful of real people. I wouldn't be surprized if the same situation applies to the Grails forums.