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I can't wait to see how much cleaner future versions of iOS will be.

by ececconi 14y ago

brudgers 14y ago
If they aren't staying skeuomorphic, then Metro might give you a preview.
- ececconi 14y ago
  Do you really think that they would radically redesign the next version of iOS?
  - brudgers 14y ago
    Next version, probably not unless there is the perception of a burning platform. But over the long haul, I don't see how Apple can stick with an increasingly dated and arbitrary visual paradigm. How many people have actually been around real to real tape decks or owned a leather desk calendar? And as digital devices like smartphones become more ubiquitous, fewer and fewer people will.
  - josho 14y ago
    > Do you really think that they would radically redesign the next version of iOS? Yes. Absolutely. After a year of the longer 4" screen I fully expect Apple to significantly revise the UI to take advantage of this extra room. Don't expect a radical change that throws out everything Apple has already achieved, but do expect new widgets that make 4" screens better.
    - Bud 14y ago
      We've already seen lots of small changes to take advantage of the extra screen height. Virtually all the iOS built-in apps and many third-party apps have made tweaks. Not just stretching the size of the main area in which you view data or other stuff, but actual interface changes as well.
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  - sigzero 14y ago
    No. I see each new version tweaking it to be better and better. iOS has stagnated a bit and I suspect Ives is going to change that.
- WiseWeasel 14y ago
  Metro is defined by flat background colors, square corners and no shading. You can have a non-skeumorphic interface without any of those features, and given Apple's history of interface design, it would surprise me if they adopted any of them. Apple loves rounded rectangles, gradient backgrounds and shading to indicate depth, though shine and real-like textures may be on the way out.
  - brudgers 14y ago
    Shading and round corners are skeuomorphic, as is indicating depth on a piece of glass. What Apple loves is irrelevant (if one is willing to ascribe emotional states to corporations). Daimler-Benz loved steering tillers. Ford loved hand throttles. Think about the way in which the interfaces of automobiles changed over the first forty years as they went from horseless carriages to widespread adoption. That's what we're seeing in computer interfaces.
    - WiseWeasel 14y ago
      Rounded corners aren't necessarily skeumorphic; they're a style choice just as rounded cabinets and trim are a (popular) style choice. Likewise, shading and gradients to give an impression of depth and lighting are often used to distinguish items that are clickable or as a separator. These are artistic tools that can be used to various effects, but are not skeumorphic in the sense of trying to imitate a familiar object from everyday life. Virtual representations of objects can be 3D without being skeumorphic; the illusion of depth can be used to convey information.
      - adam-a 14y ago
        Skeumorphic features are defined by the fact that they are unnecessary carry-overs from older or different objects. They can be useful and style choices too, but a digital button does not need to indicate depth, whereas a mechanical button does, because it needs to protrude from the surface in order to be pressed.
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- arrrg 14y ago
  I don’t think Apple will go that far. I don’t even think they will overtake stock Android when it comes to ditching skeumorphism and removing affordances. I also don’t think there will be radical changes. Remember how OS X looked before Corinthian leather arrived? That’s what I see more off in the future. Probably with an updated look (like the new iTunes?), but not much more. If you want to know how that looks on iOS I would maybe look at something like the editing interface of iMovie, Safari, or Mail. That would be my guess.

I can't wait to see how much cleaner future versions of iOS will be.

brudgers 14y ago

If they aren't staying skeuomorphic, then Metro might give you a preview.

ececconi 14y ago
Do you really think that they would radically redesign the next version of iOS?
- brudgers 14y ago
  Next version, probably not unless there is the perception of a burning platform. But over the long haul, I don't see how Apple can stick with an increasingly dated and arbitrary visual paradigm. How many people have actually been around real to real tape decks or owned a leather desk calendar? And as digital devices like smartphones become more ubiquitous, fewer and fewer people will.
- josho 14y ago
  > Do you really think that they would radically redesign the next version of iOS? Yes. Absolutely. After a year of the longer 4" screen I fully expect Apple to significantly revise the UI to take advantage of this extra room. Don't expect a radical change that throws out everything Apple has already achieved, but do expect new widgets that make 4" screens better.
  - Bud 14y ago
    We've already seen lots of small changes to take advantage of the extra screen height. Virtually all the iOS built-in apps and many third-party apps have made tweaks. Not just stretching the size of the main area in which you view data or other stuff, but actual interface changes as well.
- deleted 14y ago
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- sigzero 14y ago
  No. I see each new version tweaking it to be better and better. iOS has stagnated a bit and I suspect Ives is going to change that.
WiseWeasel 14y ago
Metro is defined by flat background colors, square corners and no shading. You can have a non-skeumorphic interface without any of those features, and given Apple's history of interface design, it would surprise me if they adopted any of them. Apple loves rounded rectangles, gradient backgrounds and shading to indicate depth, though shine and real-like textures may be on the way out.
- brudgers 14y ago
  Shading and round corners are skeuomorphic, as is indicating depth on a piece of glass. What Apple loves is irrelevant (if one is willing to ascribe emotional states to corporations). Daimler-Benz loved steering tillers. Ford loved hand throttles. Think about the way in which the interfaces of automobiles changed over the first forty years as they went from horseless carriages to widespread adoption. That's what we're seeing in computer interfaces.
  - WiseWeasel 14y ago
    Rounded corners aren't necessarily skeumorphic; they're a style choice just as rounded cabinets and trim are a (popular) style choice. Likewise, shading and gradients to give an impression of depth and lighting are often used to distinguish items that are clickable or as a separator. These are artistic tools that can be used to various effects, but are not skeumorphic in the sense of trying to imitate a familiar object from everyday life. Virtual representations of objects can be 3D without being skeumorphic; the illusion of depth can be used to convey information.
    - adam-a 14y ago
      Skeumorphic features are defined by the fact that they are unnecessary carry-overs from older or different objects. They can be useful and style choices too, but a digital button does not need to indicate depth, whereas a mechanical button does, because it needs to protrude from the surface in order to be pressed.
      - deleted 14y ago
arrrg 14y ago
I don’t think Apple will go that far. I don’t even think they will overtake stock Android when it comes to ditching skeumorphism and removing affordances. I also don’t think there will be radical changes. Remember how OS X looked before Corinthian leather arrived? That’s what I see more off in the future. Probably with an updated look (like the new iTunes?), but not much more. If you want to know how that looks on iOS I would maybe look at something like the editing interface of iMovie, Safari, or Mail. That would be my guess.