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> Enjoy unlimited high-speed data; after 50GB, speeds may slow to 256 kbps. Last I checked 256 Kbps is not high speed. You can advertise this as unlimited data
by LorenDB 8mo ago
> Enjoy unlimited high-speed data; after 50GB, speeds may slow to 256 kbps.
Last I checked 256 Kbps is not high speed. You can advertise this as unlimited data, or you can advertise it as 50 GB of high-speed data, but you can't call it unlimited high-speed data.
- johndoylecape 8mo agoThat's a fair point, we should change that verbiage.
- quietsegfault 8mo agoWhy can’t it throttle to something slightly higher? Even 100-200 KBps? Is that a requirement from the “upstream” network provider?
- johndoylecape 8mo agoIt's not. We chose this baseline sort of by default based on the practices of some other major carriers. Your question is a good one, and we'll take it as feedback.
- altairprime 8mo agoI would be a lot less worried about signing up for that plan if I could soft-cap myself at 10GB until I login to the app and push a button that says "yeah for real I'm going to use another 10GB of mobile data", so that if iOS goes bonkers and tries to download my entire 90GB iTunes library over cellular, it doesn't fuck me over for a month. I haven't exceeded 7GB/mo intentionally for years, but it's happened twice so far against my express wishes, and carriers are uniformly awful at that.
- bsstoner 8mo agoThis is good feedback. We don’t want caps and throttling to be a blocker for signing up and using us. Since we’re at a premium price point we should economically be able to be a lot more generous than existing carriers.
- chirau 8mo agoI would like to try Cape. How do guys deal with IMEI tracking from folks like Google when i search or use their email? Or that one is beyond your control?
- throawayonthe 8mo agoCan you elaborate?
- ThePowerOfFuet 8mo agoWhat makes you think Google has access to your IMEI through using their search engine?
- bdangubic 8mo agoFriends at Google :)
- ThePowerOfFuet 8mo agoChrome may well have access to persistent identifiers on Android, but websites do not. The search engine has nothing to do with it.
- alek-cape 8mo agoI thought access to IMEI and IMSI was pretty heavily restricted starting with Android 10. Graphene [1] makes a few extra restrictions beyond AOSP [2], but it's been around for a while now. To get access to IMEI and IMSI, you need to either be a carrier app, allowlisted, or grant the `READ_PRIVILEGED_PHONE_STATE` permission. Unless Chrome is running at a system level in AOSP or some OEM specific firmware, I wouldn't expect it to have `READ_PRIVILEGED_PHONE_STATE` [1] - https://grapheneos.org/faq#hardware-identifiers https://grapheneos.org/faq#hardware-identifiers [2] - https://source.android.com/docs/core/connect/device-identifiers https://source.android.com/docs/core/connect/device-identifi...
- quietsegfault 8mo agoThat’s a great idea. I rarely use more than 10-15 GB except if I’m tethering and something decided to slurp up all my data.
- phantom784 8mo agoA few Mbps would be nice - fast enough to make the modern web mostly usable. 256 Kbps is almost the same as not working at all.
- MrDOS 8mo agoSeveral years ago in the UK, giffgaff had a similar plan (throttled to 384 kbps after 80 GB throughput) which they called “always on”. I thought that was a good linguistic compromise.
- jauntywundrkind 8mo agoGoogle Fi has been 256k after the soft cap since they launched. Majorly embarrassing, took me tears to sign up because of this. Comcast I think is the best? Haven't checked in a while but their mobile plan I think soft caps to 1Mbps.
- cbdevidal 8mo agoA slightly different definition of “best” is Verizon’s Visible division. NO caps. Just slightly deprioritized speeds 100% of the time. Their website says 5Mbps speed cap at all times but I’ve tested 180Mbps and that was after using like 30GB on my hotspot. Basically all-you-can-eat (including the hotspot) with a risk that sometimes it’ll slow a little compared to others on the network, for $25/mo.
- bombcar 8mo agoThere's a real big difference between "one byte over the line and you're on a 56k modem" and "if you exceed your cap, you're deprioritized to last on the cell pole". The latter is how it should be implemented.