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Hamas has weaponized every hospital in Gaza. By contrast, Israel has not dropped an aerial bomb on any hospital building in Gaza. What has happened is Israel h

Hamas has weaponized every hospital in Gaza. By contrast, Israel has not dropped an aerial bomb on any hospital building in Gaza. What has happened is Israel has attacked hospitals with Hamas presence using ground forces, and they have dropped bombs on hospital grounds, but not in hospitals themselves.

ceejayoz 8mo ago
> By contrast, Israel has not dropped an aerial bomb on any hospital building in Gaza. An oddly specific claim. Hamas hasn't killed any Israeli with a turtle, either. I'm not sure why destroying hospitals with tanks, missiles, and sappers is better than "aerial bombs". Could you elaborate?
- richardfeynman 8mo ago
  Yes, it's specific. It's also a fact that is in direct contradistinction to the OP's claim. Israel has also not fired any missiles at hospitals, with one exception (a small diameter bomb aimed specifically at Hamas that caused minimal damage).
  - ceejayoz 8mo ago
    Again: > I'm not sure why destroying hospitals with tanks, missiles, and sappers is better than "aerial bombs". Could you elaborate?
    - richardfeynman 8mo ago
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      - osmsucks 8mo ago
        ...What an odd and dishonest framing of the problem. Do you define "hospital not destroyed" as "some walls are still standing"? Because an easy counterpoint to your claim is the Al-Shifa Hospital, which you will certainly agree cannot be operational in this state and thus can be defined as "destroyed": https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5a/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%B4%D9%81%D9%89_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B4%D9%81%D8%A7%D8%A1_%D9%81%D9%8A_%D8%BA%D8%B2%D8%A9_%D8%A8%D8%B9%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%82%D8%B5%D9%81%D8%8C_2025%D8%8C_DJI_20241221140139_0094_D.MP4.01_59_07_49.Still002.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5a/%D9%85%D... And this is one example out of the many: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_health_facilities_during_the_Gaza_war https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_health_facilities_d...
        richardfeynman 8mo ago
        People keep repeating that Al-Shifa is not operational. That claim does not match current primary sources. 1) UNICEF (Feb 5, 2026) reports restoration of pediatric intensive care services at Al-Shifa, including 7 PICU beds equipped with ventilators, monitors, and oxygen. https://www.unicef.org/sop/media/6131/file/Humanitarian%20Situation%20Update%20-%205%20February%202026.pdf.pdf https://www.unicef.org/sop/media/6131/file/Humanitarian%20Si... 2) OCHA (Dec 1, 2025) explicitly lists current service lines at Al-Shifa: 7-bed PICU, pediatric post-op inpatient care, hemodialysis, and emergency care. https://www.ochaopt.org/content/gaza-humanitarian-response-situation-report-no-35 https://www.ochaopt.org/content/gaza-humanitarian-response-s... 3) WHO (UN Geneva briefing, Dec 12, 2025) states Al-Shifa was working again as a partially functional tertiary care hospital with many services functional. https://www.unognewsroom.org/story/en/2946/un-geneva-press-briefing-12-december-2025 https://www.unognewsroom.org/story/en/2946/un-geneva-press-b... 4) ACAPS (Feb 5, 2026) says that by Jan 19 Al-Shifa was receiving around 500 patients daily. https://www.acaps.org/fileadmin/Data_Product/Main_media/20260205_ACAPS__Palestine_-_Impact_of_winter_storms_in_Gaza_and_the_West_Bank.pdf https://www.acaps.org/fileadmin/Data_Product/Main_media/2026... Operational does not mean intact or well-supplied. It means treating patients and running services. The above sources show it is.
        osmsucks 8mo ago
        Okay, you go get treatment at that facility if it's working as well as you insist. Besides, whether the facility is (partially!) operational today is besides the point. Your original post insisted that "Israel has destroyed no hospitals", while it clearly has. The picture I linked is from 2024. The fact that Al-Shifa was brought back to a partially operating state in late 2025, after months of partial ceasefire, doesn't disprove that it was destroyed in 2024. Sources like https://en.yenisafak.com/world/al-shifa-hospital-begins-recovery-after-israeli-assaults-3710435 https://en.yenisafak.com/world/al-shifa-hospital-begins-reco... show that the situation is far from positive. And, again, this is just one example of the many.
        richardfeynman 8mo ago
      - seymores 8mo ago
        It's pointless to read further. This post is by a bot.
  - basilgohar 8mo ago
    Israel is an oppressive, genocidal, apartheid illegally occupying force. You can't compare the two sides. Palestinians have been under this assault by Israel and Zionists in general for nearly a century. Defending anything Israel does at this point is indefensible. Their context has ALWAYS been wrong and they've been caught lying so many times it's more accurate to believe exactly the opposite of anything the IDF says.
    - richardfeynman 8mo ago
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    - naasking 8mo ago
      This is wildly one-sided and basically incorrect. The Palestinians initiated multiple conflicts against the Jews, even before the foundation of Israel. The Jewish people beat them back every time, and this same pattern continued after the Israel's founding. What happened throughout history when someone beat back a hostile enemy that attacked them? The loser lost territory, resources, and freedoms. Which isn't to say that Israel hasn't done some seriously unethical things, but this notion that the Palestinians are poor innocent victims that have never hurt a soul and carry no blame for their situation going back a century is absurd and ahistorical.
      - DiogenesKynikos 8mo ago
        This conflict has nothing to do with "the Jews," and framing it in that way seriously distorts it. It's a conflict between the native population of Palestine and people who came in from the outside with the goal of making Palestine their own. The outsiders won for a number of reasons (British backing, superior political organization, etc.). They now rule over the native population, most of whom they deny any rights to. They justify this by saying the native population deserves it because it hates them and resists them.
        naasking 8mo ago
        It is about the Jews, because the Arab population started violent conflicts against Jews who were legally purchasing land up through Israel's founding. Palestinians lost territory because of the violence they repeatedly started, despite legitimate military losses over territory and new borders drawn by armistices. Please read some history: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47159524 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47159524
ok123456 8mo ago
Hamas didn't "weaponize every hospital in Gaza."
- richardfeynman 8mo ago
  Finally, a refutable claim. Can you name me a hospital in Gaza that didn't have a Hamas presence?
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  - DiogenesKynikos 8mo ago
    Can you name a hospital in Israel that doesn't have an IDF presence? "Presence" is an incredibly vague claim. In order to attack a hospital, you have to prove that the enemy is actively shooting at you from it, and your attack has to be proportionate. Vaguely asserting that some enemy might have set foot in the hospital at some point does not give you carte blanche to blow up a hospital full of civilians. Yet that's exactly what Israel has done over and over again.
    - richardfeynman 8mo ago

ceejayoz 8mo ago

> By contrast, Israel has not dropped an aerial bomb on any hospital building in Gaza. An oddly specific claim. Hamas hasn't killed any Israeli with a turtle, either. I'm not sure why destroying hospitals with tanks, missiles, and sappers is better than "aerial bombs". Could you elaborate?

richardfeynman 8mo ago
Yes, it's specific. It's also a fact that is in direct contradistinction to the OP's claim. Israel has also not fired any missiles at hospitals, with one exception (a small diameter bomb aimed specifically at Hamas that caused minimal damage).
- ceejayoz 8mo ago
  Again: > I'm not sure why destroying hospitals with tanks, missiles, and sappers is better than "aerial bombs". Could you elaborate?
  - richardfeynman 8mo ago
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    - osmsucks 8mo ago
      ...What an odd and dishonest framing of the problem. Do you define "hospital not destroyed" as "some walls are still standing"? Because an easy counterpoint to your claim is the Al-Shifa Hospital, which you will certainly agree cannot be operational in this state and thus can be defined as "destroyed": https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5a/%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%B4%D9%81%D9%89_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B4%D9%81%D8%A7%D8%A1_%D9%81%D9%8A_%D8%BA%D8%B2%D8%A9_%D8%A8%D8%B9%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%82%D8%B5%D9%81%D8%8C_2025%D8%8C_DJI_20241221140139_0094_D.MP4.01_59_07_49.Still002.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5a/%D9%85%D... And this is one example out of the many: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_health_facilities_during_the_Gaza_war https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_health_facilities_d...
      - richardfeynman 8mo ago
        People keep repeating that Al-Shifa is not operational. That claim does not match current primary sources. 1) UNICEF (Feb 5, 2026) reports restoration of pediatric intensive care services at Al-Shifa, including 7 PICU beds equipped with ventilators, monitors, and oxygen. https://www.unicef.org/sop/media/6131/file/Humanitarian%20Situation%20Update%20-%205%20February%202026.pdf.pdf https://www.unicef.org/sop/media/6131/file/Humanitarian%20Si... 2) OCHA (Dec 1, 2025) explicitly lists current service lines at Al-Shifa: 7-bed PICU, pediatric post-op inpatient care, hemodialysis, and emergency care. https://www.ochaopt.org/content/gaza-humanitarian-response-situation-report-no-35 https://www.ochaopt.org/content/gaza-humanitarian-response-s... 3) WHO (UN Geneva briefing, Dec 12, 2025) states Al-Shifa was working again as a partially functional tertiary care hospital with many services functional. https://www.unognewsroom.org/story/en/2946/un-geneva-press-briefing-12-december-2025 https://www.unognewsroom.org/story/en/2946/un-geneva-press-b... 4) ACAPS (Feb 5, 2026) says that by Jan 19 Al-Shifa was receiving around 500 patients daily. https://www.acaps.org/fileadmin/Data_Product/Main_media/20260205_ACAPS__Palestine_-_Impact_of_winter_storms_in_Gaza_and_the_West_Bank.pdf https://www.acaps.org/fileadmin/Data_Product/Main_media/2026... Operational does not mean intact or well-supplied. It means treating patients and running services. The above sources show it is.
        osmsucks 8mo ago
        Okay, you go get treatment at that facility if it's working as well as you insist. Besides, whether the facility is (partially!) operational today is besides the point. Your original post insisted that "Israel has destroyed no hospitals", while it clearly has. The picture I linked is from 2024. The fact that Al-Shifa was brought back to a partially operating state in late 2025, after months of partial ceasefire, doesn't disprove that it was destroyed in 2024. Sources like https://en.yenisafak.com/world/al-shifa-hospital-begins-recovery-after-israeli-assaults-3710435 https://en.yenisafak.com/world/al-shifa-hospital-begins-reco... show that the situation is far from positive. And, again, this is just one example of the many.
        richardfeynman 8mo ago
    - seymores 8mo ago
      It's pointless to read further. This post is by a bot.
- basilgohar 8mo ago
  Israel is an oppressive, genocidal, apartheid illegally occupying force. You can't compare the two sides. Palestinians have been under this assault by Israel and Zionists in general for nearly a century. Defending anything Israel does at this point is indefensible. Their context has ALWAYS been wrong and they've been caught lying so many times it's more accurate to believe exactly the opposite of anything the IDF says.
  - richardfeynman 8mo ago
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  - naasking 8mo ago
    This is wildly one-sided and basically incorrect. The Palestinians initiated multiple conflicts against the Jews, even before the foundation of Israel. The Jewish people beat them back every time, and this same pattern continued after the Israel's founding. What happened throughout history when someone beat back a hostile enemy that attacked them? The loser lost territory, resources, and freedoms. Which isn't to say that Israel hasn't done some seriously unethical things, but this notion that the Palestinians are poor innocent victims that have never hurt a soul and carry no blame for their situation going back a century is absurd and ahistorical.
    - DiogenesKynikos 8mo ago
      This conflict has nothing to do with "the Jews," and framing it in that way seriously distorts it. It's a conflict between the native population of Palestine and people who came in from the outside with the goal of making Palestine their own. The outsiders won for a number of reasons (British backing, superior political organization, etc.). They now rule over the native population, most of whom they deny any rights to. They justify this by saying the native population deserves it because it hates them and resists them.
      - naasking 8mo ago
        It is about the Jews, because the Arab population started violent conflicts against Jews who were legally purchasing land up through Israel's founding. Palestinians lost territory because of the violence they repeatedly started, despite legitimate military losses over territory and new borders drawn by armistices. Please read some history: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47159524 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47159524

ok123456 8mo ago

Hamas didn't "weaponize every hospital in Gaza."

richardfeynman 8mo ago
Finally, a refutable claim. Can you name me a hospital in Gaza that didn't have a Hamas presence?
- ok123456 8mo ago
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- DiogenesKynikos 8mo ago
  Can you name a hospital in Israel that doesn't have an IDF presence? "Presence" is an incredibly vague claim. In order to attack a hospital, you have to prove that the enemy is actively shooting at you from it, and your attack has to be proportionate. Vaguely asserting that some enemy might have set foot in the hospital at some point does not give you carte blanche to blow up a hospital full of civilians. Yet that's exactly what Israel has done over and over again.
  - richardfeynman 8mo ago