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It needs a careful long term approach from real leaders. Not a run-and-gun, corrupt, chaotic president throwing tariffs (taxes) up on a whim.
by tencentshill 8mo ago
It needs a careful long term approach from real leaders. Not a run-and-gun, corrupt, chaotic president throwing tariffs (taxes) up on a whim.
- ljsprague 8mo ago[flagged]
- OsrsNeedsf2P 8mo agoWas Kamala campaigning on bringing manufacturing to Texas?
- dropofwill 8mo agoProbably referring to the CHIPs Act? Technically Biden. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHIPS_and_Science_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHIPS_and_Science_Act
- lastdong 8mo agoTechnically Kamala. — As Vice President, Kamala Harris was a key proponent and promoter of the 2022 CHIPS and Science Act, which aims to boost U.S. semiconductor manufacturing.
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- tokyobreakfast 8mo ago[flagged]
- daymanstep 8mo agoManaged to do what?
- nxm 8mo agoAt least he’s trying. Instead of the other side just yelling about “corporate greed” while doing nothing but collecting lobbying money as jobs continue to get exported.
- tokyobreakfast 8mo agoBuild products in the US. Those jobs Steve Jobs told Obama are "never coming back".
- JohnTHaller 8mo ago> Last time I checked, manufacturing employment hasn't gone up since Jan 2025. It's gone down according to the official US numbers, as expected
- daymanstep 8mo agoLast time I checked, manufacturing employment hasn't gone up since Jan 2025.
- hn_acc1 8mo agoWhich of those have come back?
- mothballed 8mo agoManufacturing output has been ~monotonically increasing except during the great recession for the past 3 decades. Jobs though have been basically monotonically decreasing. We're still getting the strategic benefits of more manufacturing, just have fewer people getting their thumbs cut off in stamping machines or melted alive in steel mills.
- ryandrake 8mo ago
- throwaway894345 8mo agoto be clear, the US has been rapidly losing manufacturing jobs since the orange coronation.
- hn_acc1 8mo agoYou mean, like FoxConn took $B from orange guy, promised 10K+ jobs, then sat on the land for a few years and did nothing? Sure, let's replicate that at scale..
- Krustopolis 8mo agoThings take time. Especially during the pandemic and its aftermath. How you been down to Arizona lately to see the developments? Not just the manufacturing itself but everything that has sprung up around it? It’s impressive.
- xienze 8mo agoHe’s at least getting companies to pretend like they’re going to try. That’s a starting point. Before, the best you’d get out of these CEOs is “LOL those jobs are never coming back, learn to code or whatever else hasn’t been outsourced fully yet.”
- throwaway894345 8mo agoHis predecessor worked with Congress to actually bring microchip manufacturing back to the US and tried to keep us competitive with EV manufacturing (not to mention the infrastructure investments that are necessary for any serious manufacturing effort). Those were real commitments. Extorting CEOs to announce investments (like the Zuckerberg hot mic incident) is not worth anything to me. Meanwhile the US has been hemorrhaging manufacturing jobs for the last year.
- 0_____0 8mo agoThere is no contingent in the US federal government that has a coherent plan for doing what you're talking about. The investment in capability that is necessary to build the next generation of manufacturing capabilities in the US is simply not within the public imagination.
- mothballed 8mo agoI don't think it's something that can be centrally planned well. If the US changes their environmental regulations to match China, lowered their tax-to-GDP ratio to match China, changed their worker regulations to match China, and then opened up free immigration from Mexico for cheap factory labor then the "free" market would likely take care of opening up quite a bit more manufacturing.
- cucumber3732842 8mo agoHell, don't even match it. Split the difference and it would unleash a torrent of economic activity. It will never happen because there's too many industries and jobs that only exist because of all that regulation and will fight tooth and nail to avoid a short term haircut.
- 0_____0 8mo agochina did not synthesize shenzhen through having poor environmental regulations and cheap labor, nor would one expect to have a shenzhen appear spontaneously in the us if the us allowed in unlimited migrant labor and abolished all environmental law.
- palmotea 8mo ago>> Just as manufacturing in China took time manufacturing in the US will take time. The US has lost much of its skilled labor and mom and pop parts shop. If we have any hope of re-invigorating this some large company is going to have to bite the bullet. Chicken and egg problem imo. I'll leave whether this is worth it or not up to the economists. > It needs a careful long term approach from real leaders. Not a run-and-gun, corrupt, chaotic president throwing tariffs (taxes) up on a whim. The problem is all the real leaders got indoctrinated and drank the globalization kool-aid. Unfortunately, it seems only an insane and chaotic person was able to actually buck the iamverysmart consensus.