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> If genocide were the goal this war would have lasted one day. You can't infer intent that way. Nuking Gaza isn't free, it would introduce an existential thr
by wayeq 8mo ago
> If genocide were the goal this war would have lasted one day.
You can't infer intent that way. Nuking Gaza isn't free, it would introduce an existential threat to Israel. They are toeing a dangerous line already, and using WMDs would align other countries against them really quickly.
Putin isn't avoiding using nukes on Ukraine because he's a nice guy.
- neoromantique 8mo agoWhy does israel use expensive precise munitions wherever possible rather than their stockpiles of much more deadly "dumb" ones?
- NickC25 8mo agobecause it would be admitting to the world that it has said weapons. Israel has always said it doesn't have nuclear weapons. They would have absolutely zero sympathy going forward from any major nation if they decided to drop a nuclear bomb on Gaza, and they want that land so rendering that land uninhabitable might not be a good idea.
- neoromantique 8mo agoby dumb munitions I mean older bombs vs JDAM and alike. Anyone who seriously speaks words 'nuclear weapon' and 'gaza' together is basically admitting he has 0 clue about the situation and is uninformed larper for either side.
- thenaturalist 8mo agoThe argument conveniently always goes such that Israel is the baddie. Curious how that goes, especially since Israels ulterior motives are always implied, they're not taken by their word. And Islamists, who share their motives openly with anyone willing to listen are ignored.
- mattmaroon 8mo agoGenocide was literally in Hamas’s charter and yet somehow they’re the good guys because modern leftists can’t think past “colonialism bad”.
- NickC25 7mo agoI never said they were the good guys. Fuck Hamas. But let's not equate an inexperienced group of starved and impoverished guerilla fighters with a first-world, nuclear-armed genocidal ethnostate.
- wayeq 8mo agomaybe because they are trying to act ethically toward a murderous neighbor that is conducting asymmetric warfare and those are the best tools to accomplish that. or, maybe because they came to the conclusion that the repercussions on the world stage of even more horrific media coming out of Gaza is too steep of a price to pay. i don't know which, but i do know it is naive to conclude that because they COULD end the war in a day and did not, they are driven by morality and ethical concerns rather than pragmatic ones.
- mattmaroon 8mo agoI didn’t say they were driven by morality, though I’m sure they are more so than Hamas. I just think what they’re doing is ethnic cleansing (which is not a compliment) rather than genocide. I’m actually pretty sure that most of the people who call it by “genocide” don’t know the difference between the two.
- tdeck 8mo agoExpensive for whom? US taxpayers?
- mattmaroon 8mo agoThey have remotely guided bulldozers and enough non-nuclear weapons to do the job several times over conventionally too though.