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"what is Fivecast ONYX? an AI-powered surveillance platform purchased by ICE for $4.2 million and CBP for additional license costs. according to Fivecast’s own
by dylan604 9mo ago
"what is Fivecast ONYX? an AI-powered surveillance platform purchased by ICE for $4.2 million and CBP for additional license costs. according to Fivecast’s own documentation and EFF’s reporting, they do automated collection of multimedia data from social media and dark web, build “digital footprints” from biographical data, tracks shifts in sentiment and emotion, assigns risk scores, searches across 300+ platforms and 28+ billion data points, identifies people with “violent tendencies”"
Glad to know that my tinfoil hat wasn't too tight when social media came to be and this obvious use was predicted. How quickly will not having social media accounts become a crime?
- varenc 9mo agoAccording to Persona's damage control article[0], the subdomain had "onyx" in its name because that's the internal code name for the project, and it's named after the pokémon Onyx. No connection to Fivecast ONYX. [0] https://withpersona.com/blog/post-incident-review-source-map-exposure-non-production-subdomain https://withpersona.com/blog/post-incident-review-source-map...
- crimsoneer 9mo agoI don't really understand why ICE would have a Persona OPenAI connection...?
- pseudosaid 9mo agoReally? Sounds like they are a customer.
- m4rtink 8mo agoI am not sure summoning Nintendo due to trademark infringement will help with damage control. ;-)
- tremon 8mo agoNaming a fantasy creature after a common gemstone should make it non-trademarkable anyway, but I'd love to see Nintendo tie up the US government in court for years.
- a_victorp 9mo agoIt's already frowned upon when crossing the border
- antonvs 9mo agoFinally, a use for my LinkedIn account. In fact I think I might start posting AI slop to it.
- weird_tentacles 8mo ago[dead]
- tamimio 9mo agoWe need a list of these 300+ platforms
- fooker 9mo ago> How quickly will not having social media accounts become a crime? Ah, it already is. Just being trialed against people with less rights and no voting power. Since the last several months, your US visa will be rejected if you do not submit public social media profiles. If you think the government is spending a hundred billions on this category of tech for vetting a few thousand people, you are a prime candidate to buy a bridge that I can sell you for a discount.
- galangalalgol 9mo agoCan I just ask gpt to ask me questions to create my profile directly? I can't be bothered with any social media. Whatever it is supposed to addict me with is missing, I just find it all very boring.
- UntappedShelf21 9mo agoI got into the USA in September last year. On my esta I put a private instagram account I begrudgingly made to talk to some friends, and my LinkedIn. I guess that’s enough data?
- Barbing 9mo agoThey swiped through the photo gallery on your phone, right? (Standard for years from what I know based on Latin America to USA)
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- seanhunter 8mo ago> Since the last several months, your US visa will be rejected if you do not submit public social media profiles. I don’t think this is true. You can get a visa just fine if you don’t have social media profiles. Source: me. I don’t have facebook, insta, twitter etc and travel to the US just fine. When I filled in the form I left those empty. What I think you can’t do is get a visa if you have social media profiles and choose not to disclose them or you post things or have friends/links on your social media that cbp considers elevates your risk etc.
- jcgrillo 9mo agoNot a crime, necessarily, just a hefty debit against your social credit score.
- ok_dad 9mo agoOr a precursor to minority report precrime
- jcgrillo 8mo agoIt's an interesting conundrum.. I've always viewed "the law" as something that doesn't really materialize until you're arrested, arraigned, tried, and sentenced. So "breaking" the law and "getting away with it" isn't actually "illegal" it's just... normal. The law only matters if some filthy rat narc catches you and summons the pigs. Not sure how any of that adjusts in this scenario, really.
- King-Aaron 9mo agoOn a macro scale, in Australia if you don't have a paid private health policy, you get slugged with additional tax come tax time. The same could happen here - "oh, you don't have social media? Well the state needs more tax from you to pay for your additional state surveillance"
- jcgrillo 8mo agoCould it though? I have lived in rural areas and urban areas of the US. This speaks more to the rural areas than the urban, but only marginally--Americans like their firearms, they're suspicious of The Government, and they don't much care for the tax man. And by and large they like to be left the fuck alone. If the revenuers show up demanding too much we have a rich and storied history of mistreating them.
- nixon_why69 8mo agoHow's that working out right now?
- raxxorraxor 8mo agoI am not that old and I remember when people warned other to put too much info on social media. You can even identify people through a few sentences and some people have basically a complete life encyclopedia about themselves online. Sure, those are usually not the most influential for political developments besides being called influencers.
- FrasiertheLion 8mo agoRecent paper by Nicholas Carlinini and others really showcases how little it takes to deanonymize users across platforms with LLMs: https://arxiv.org/abs/2602.16800 https://arxiv.org/abs/2602.16800