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> So what does peace look like? You say he should sue for peace Yes, if he actually wanted peace and to preserve the lives of his working-age male population h
by tinfoilhatter 8mo ago
> So what does peace look like? You say he should sue for peace
Yes, if he actually wanted peace and to preserve the lives of his working-age male population he would concede some territory for some sort of security guarantee (not assurance). Instead he traps his entire working-age male population in the country and conscripts them off the street.
If Russia wanted peace and to preserve the lives of their working-age male population, they would be more willing to negotiate terms of surrender for Ukraine, or withdraw from the Ukraine completely.
Clearly neither side wants peace. So the war continues. Every single time peace talks happen, one side or the other sabotages them. This is by design.
> your objection isn’t really Zelenskyy’s handling of the war, your objection is to the fact that he exists as the leader of a place that Russia wants
No? The conflict is not about Russia wanting Ukraine or Ukrainian sovereignty as I have stated multiple times. It's about genociding slavs. There's a reason that negotiators on both sides of the table share something in common in terms of their identity.
Wars aren't organic, they are orchestrated by certain factions of people that want to create a society / world in their ideal order. The Ukraine conflict is part of their plan. It's been written and spoken about many times in recent decades. If you haven't figured that out yet and are still relying on the Putin bad logic to explain this conflict, I don't know what else I can tell you.
Do I think Zelenskyy suing for peace is at all realistic? No. You also asked a completely unrealistic question, because the goal isn't peace or territorial gain, it's genocide of slavs.
- wat10000 8mo agoWhich certain factions of people are orchestrating this war?
- tinfoilhatter 8mo agoThe same factions of people that have been attempting to usher in the Noahide new world order / great work for millenia. [1] https://ordoabchao.ca/volume-one/introduction https://ordoabchao.ca/volume-one/introduction
- wat10000 8mo agoCrackpot bullshit, got it.
- tinfoilhatter 8mo ago> Crackpot bullshit I'd reply to your comment directly, but HN is preventing me for whatever reason. Hysterical reply though! I'm sure you said that elites trafficking children to an Island was crackpot bullshit too, until it wasn't. I understand that you need your worldview to fit into a tiny, neat little logical box that makes you feel virtuous and safe. Unfortunately for you, reality has other plans.
- wat10000 8mo agoOh, I don't feel safe. It's just I'm worried about realistic threats like global war caused by a bunch of idiot assholes becoming heads of state, not some shadowy cabal orchestrating a pandemic in order to force vaccines on the population.
- tinfoilhatter 8mo ago> Oh, I don't feel safe. It's just I'm worried about realistic threats like global war caused by a bunch of idiot assholes becoming heads of state, not some shadowy cabal orchestrating a pandemic in order to force vaccines on the population. Those idiot assholes that have become heads of state are the public face of said shadowy cabal. The pandemic was just one facet of their plan, and the war in Ukraine is another. I also didn't mention the pandemic once, and the link I sent you to talks about far more than just the pandemic. I'm not sure how you can discount a shadowy cabal after what we've learned recently with global pedophile rings of elites trafficking children, that include current and former heads of state. Maybe dots simply aren't connecting for you? The word realistic in relation to world affairs has lost a lot of meaning given current events, wouldn't you agree?
- wat10000 8mo agoA shadowy cabal that gets together for debauchery and rape is quite different from a shadowy cabal that unleashes a pandemic as part of an evil plan to force everyone to get vaccinated. Why would they even want to do that? I get why people want to engage in debauchery. Why would they want to force vaccines on everyone? The basic concept makes no sense.