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Very impressive pricing! On the other hand, it doesn't support LTE. When will Google realize that basic things like fast network speed are more important than

Very impressive pricing! On the other hand, it doesn't support LTE. When will Google realize that basic things like fast network speed are more important than fancy things like face unlock and NFC.

rryan 14y ago
More info: http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3569688/why-nexus-4-does-not-have-4g-lte http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3569688/why-nexus-4-does-...
tomjen3 14y ago
Honestly why do you want LTE? You are going to burn through your data alotment very, very fast.
- illumin8 14y ago
  Yes. Some of us have unlimited plans.
- wpietri 14y ago
  Not necessarily. I've had LTE since July and am very happy with it. I don't use crazy amounts of data, but when I am using it I like the zippiness compared with 3G.
- mahyarm 14y ago
  With LTE everywhere comes bigger data allotments. It's very easy to get 10/10 Mbps with LTE.
- eco 14y ago
  What I like about LTE is the decreased latency (rather than the higher peak speed).
- mortenjorck 14y ago
  That's what I thought would happen before I got an LTE phone, but in practice, I'm not burning through it that much faster – I'm mostly just following the same usage patterns I had with 3G, just spending less time waiting.
  - drivebyacct2 14y ago
    I'm in the same boat. I don't consume media on my phone, like, ever though, except Subsonic and even then I relisten to my favorite music of the month enough that it gets cached quickly.
- ChuckMcM 14y ago
  I had a 3G iPad, and now I have an LTE iPad. The difference is quite noticeable in the Bay Area at least. So for a tablet device I strongly prefer LTE at this point.
- Andys 14y ago
  Low latency. Reduction in the 3G "time to first data" lag.
bad_user 14y ago
LTE is not as important as you make it sound. Mobile bandwidth is still expensive, so you only get a couple of GB per month for a decent price and if you want more, you have to shell out a lot of cash. I don't know how it is in the US, but here in Europe (at least in my country, Romania), the 3G connections are pretty good and 4G is coming, but it's not there yet. And I can't picture what you'd want to do with an expensive 4G connection. With my 3G connection I can watch Youtube videos just fine. But it really does work at around ~ 20 Mbps (HSPA+), which is like ~ 2 MB/s, so if I'm not careful, I can burn thorough my 5 GB plan in a couple of hours. And from personal experience, few people have more than 5 GB of monthly bandwidth. At home I have Wifi, at work I have Wifi, all the coffee-shops I go to have free Wifis for clients, most hotels have Wifis too. The only instances where I use my 3G connection is when I commute between places or if I end-up with a shitty Wifi connection and in such instances I just browse the web casually, or read email, or read Twitter/Facebook updates. Which is what most people do. The only heavy-usage of my 3G connection has been for Skype. But Skype works surprisingly well for me over 3G (YMMV of course).
- shinratdr 14y ago
  > LTE is not as important as you make it sound. Except you then go on to explain for a couple paragraphs that it doesn't matter BECAUSE <insert a ton of active device management>. Here is my process for connecting with my LTE phone: I turn it on. Speed is as fast as WiFi all the time. I have a 6GB plan and have never had to worry about hitting it. That's it. I haven't used a free WiFi network outside of work in a year. LTE is way faster. Just like the touchscreen on the front of the phone, you don't know you want it until you have it. Then, you'll never give it up.
  - hack_edu 14y ago
    Let's be honest here, speed isn't as fast as WiFi all the time. It's as fast as WiFi, with much higher latency, in the times you're within good range of the proper cell tower. Sorry, but its not the same as WiFi when you're sitting on the can in the windowless bathroom on the 8th floor of a big office building.
lucian1900 14y ago
Why? I'm perfectly happy with HSPA+. I'll take at least 3G everywhere over LTE.
RShiki 14y ago
LTE isn't even available yet in my country and it's not the third world, but France. 300 euros is cheap for a smartphone like the Nexus 4, in comparison, the Samsung Galaxy S3 is 500 euros on amazon.fr and it's the cheapest price you can get for it, it's more like 600 euros everywhere else. The lack of LTE won't be a dealbreaker for most people, and probably even those who live in the USA. $300 hits the right price point for a flagship phone and the upside of owning a nexus and getting Google's support is huge. I'd rather get an iPhone than an android that is not a Nexus. Both OS are constantly evolving and getting better, waiting for the carriers and OEM to get their shit together is getting old.

Very impressive pricing! On the other hand, it doesn't support LTE. When will Google realize that basic things like fast network speed are more important than fancy things like face unlock and NFC.

rryan 14y ago

More info: http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3569688/why-nexus-4-does-not-have-4g-lte http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3569688/why-nexus-4-does-...

tomjen3 14y ago

Honestly why do you want LTE? You are going to burn through your data alotment very, very fast.

illumin8 14y ago
Yes. Some of us have unlimited plans.
wpietri 14y ago
Not necessarily. I've had LTE since July and am very happy with it. I don't use crazy amounts of data, but when I am using it I like the zippiness compared with 3G.
mahyarm 14y ago
With LTE everywhere comes bigger data allotments. It's very easy to get 10/10 Mbps with LTE.
eco 14y ago
What I like about LTE is the decreased latency (rather than the higher peak speed).
mortenjorck 14y ago
That's what I thought would happen before I got an LTE phone, but in practice, I'm not burning through it that much faster – I'm mostly just following the same usage patterns I had with 3G, just spending less time waiting.
- drivebyacct2 14y ago
  I'm in the same boat. I don't consume media on my phone, like, ever though, except Subsonic and even then I relisten to my favorite music of the month enough that it gets cached quickly.
ChuckMcM 14y ago
I had a 3G iPad, and now I have an LTE iPad. The difference is quite noticeable in the Bay Area at least. So for a tablet device I strongly prefer LTE at this point.
Andys 14y ago
Low latency. Reduction in the 3G "time to first data" lag.

bad_user 14y ago

LTE is not as important as you make it sound. Mobile bandwidth is still expensive, so you only get a couple of GB per month for a decent price and if you want more, you have to shell out a lot of cash. I don't know how it is in the US, but here in Europe (at least in my country, Romania), the 3G connections are pretty good and 4G is coming, but it's not there yet. And I can't picture what you'd want to do with an expensive 4G connection. With my 3G connection I can watch Youtube videos just fine. But it really does work at around ~ 20 Mbps (HSPA+), which is like ~ 2 MB/s, so if I'm not careful, I can burn thorough my 5 GB plan in a couple of hours. And from personal experience, few people have more than 5 GB of monthly bandwidth. At home I have Wifi, at work I have Wifi, all the coffee-shops I go to have free Wifis for clients, most hotels have Wifis too. The only instances where I use my 3G connection is when I commute between places or if I end-up with a shitty Wifi connection and in such instances I just browse the web casually, or read email, or read Twitter/Facebook updates. Which is what most people do. The only heavy-usage of my 3G connection has been for Skype. But Skype works surprisingly well for me over 3G (YMMV of course).

shinratdr 14y ago
> LTE is not as important as you make it sound. Except you then go on to explain for a couple paragraphs that it doesn't matter BECAUSE <insert a ton of active device management>. Here is my process for connecting with my LTE phone: I turn it on. Speed is as fast as WiFi all the time. I have a 6GB plan and have never had to worry about hitting it. That's it. I haven't used a free WiFi network outside of work in a year. LTE is way faster. Just like the touchscreen on the front of the phone, you don't know you want it until you have it. Then, you'll never give it up.
- hack_edu 14y ago
  Let's be honest here, speed isn't as fast as WiFi all the time. It's as fast as WiFi, with much higher latency, in the times you're within good range of the proper cell tower. Sorry, but its not the same as WiFi when you're sitting on the can in the windowless bathroom on the 8th floor of a big office building.

lucian1900 14y ago

Why? I'm perfectly happy with HSPA+. I'll take at least 3G everywhere over LTE.

RShiki 14y ago

LTE isn't even available yet in my country and it's not the third world, but France. 300 euros is cheap for a smartphone like the Nexus 4, in comparison, the Samsung Galaxy S3 is 500 euros on amazon.fr and it's the cheapest price you can get for it, it's more like 600 euros everywhere else. The lack of LTE won't be a dealbreaker for most people, and probably even those who live in the USA. $300 hits the right price point for a flagship phone and the upside of owning a nexus and getting Google's support is huge. I'd rather get an iPhone than an android that is not a Nexus. Both OS are constantly evolving and getting better, waiting for the carriers and OEM to get their shit together is getting old.