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What I'm getting at is the difference between subjective experience ("chills") and any theory describing it. ("Qualia", "no amount of simulating water will make

What I'm getting at is the difference between subjective experience ("chills") and any theory describing it. ("Qualia", "no amount of simulating water will make anything wet", etc.) Although personally I prefer scientific theories to describe reality (they are still the best/most useful), our experience is never "based" on theories.

LatencyKills 7mo ago
Well then we agree. I'm just not a fan of using the term "spiritual" for a physical event. No need to ascribe "chills" in a hand-wavy manner.
- tummler 7mo ago
  Why does the term “spiritual” bother you so much? Perhaps interrogate that.
  - LatencyKills 7mo ago
    I don't really have to interrogate why the term "spiritual" has absolutely no meaning wrt the genetic underpinnings of the effects discussed in the study. The study was scientific. It isn't complicated.
krzat 7mo ago
IMO, if we had enough brain scans paired with descriptions of subjective experience, we could create a decent bridge between objective and subjective.