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They are the result of an infinite and ever expanding cosmos; absolutely no magic thinking or beliefs are required. I don't need to pretend that magic exists ju
by LatencyKills 8mo ago
They are the result of an infinite and ever expanding cosmos; absolutely no magic thinking or beliefs are required. I don't need to pretend that magic exists just because processes are complex.
- elemesmedve 8mo agoWhat I'm getting at is the difference between subjective experience ("chills") and any theory describing it. ("Qualia", "no amount of simulating water will make anything wet", etc.) Although personally I prefer scientific theories to describe reality (they are still the best/most useful), our experience is never "based" on theories.
- LatencyKills 8mo agoWell then we agree. I'm just not a fan of using the term "spiritual" for a physical event. No need to ascribe "chills" in a hand-wavy manner.
- tummler 8mo agoWhy does the term “spiritual” bother you so much? Perhaps interrogate that.
- LatencyKills 8mo agoI don't really have to interrogate why the term "spiritual" has absolutely no meaning wrt the genetic underpinnings of the effects discussed in the study. The study was scientific. It isn't complicated.
- krzat 8mo agoIMO, if we had enough brain scans paired with descriptions of subjective experience, we could create a decent bridge between objective and subjective.