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Approximately all people update Firefox so you don't need telemetry to count "AI disabled" installations, instead you can derive it as "updates requested" minus
by vient 7mo ago
Approximately all people update Firefox so you don't need telemetry to count "AI disabled" installations, instead you can derive it as "updates requested" minus "AI enabled".
- fenykep 7mo agoBut the AI and telemetry toggles aren't coupled. While we can assume that users who disable telemetry are more likely to have AI disabled as well this still isn't translating to user numbers.
- duttish 7mo agoHm. I don't think I follow "isn't translating to user numbers", could you elaborate? Here's my thinking: There's 100 users getting updates. There's 40 users sending telemetry with AI enabled There's 10 users sending telemetry with AI disabled So we have 50 people not sending telemetry and using or not using AI. If we assume more likely but not overwhelmingly more it's 30 people. So we end up with 40+20 with AI, and 10+30 without?
- zorked 7mo agoThis correlation may be ilegal to do in large parts of the world. When you disable telemetry you are declaring you don't want to be tracked.
- whizzter 7mo agoIf you attach tracking to get exact set numbers it'd be illegal, but taking an aggregate and doing statistics shouldn't be since it can't be traced to individuals.
- vient 7mo agoI assumed that AI features require server, so the server knows how many users it has. If some features are local then it's not so straightforward.
- sysguest 7mo agothat's.... really clever
- sellmesoap 7mo agoI can think if some mac users I know who deny all updates from being burned by feature creep and breakages in the past.