3 ms·

What a great idea! what could possibly go wrong allowing farmers with no expertise in writing firmware for gigantic farm equipment, overseeing code output from

What a great idea! what could possibly go wrong allowing farmers with no expertise in writing firmware for gigantic farm equipment, overseeing code output from an LLM and then uploading it to the aforementioned gigantic farm equipment? Let's just ignore the part where this wouldn't even address the problem at hand!

defrost 8mo ago
.. and the farmers with firmware experience? "Farmers" aren't a monolithic lump of homogenous yokels with straw sticking out their teeth. The Ukranian farming community birthed the cracked and reverse engineered John Deere software now being uploaded into US tractors by US farmers to bypass kill switches, for custom addons, data retention, etc. #NotAllFarmers are SWEs, great welders, advanced diesel mechanics, pilots, ... but all these skillsets are within or closely adjacent to farming communities.
- Braxton1980 8mo ago
  I don't think he was calling them yokels. Software for farm equipment is very specific field. I don't think it would matter if they were software developers because that mostly means front end and back end web development.
  - defrost 8mo ago
    > I don't think it would matter if they were software developers because that mostly means front end and back end web development. Really? I've been a software developer since 1980 or so, never ever touched web development .. horses for courses I guess. Interfacing with machines and instruments, no worries. Circling back, the farmers I know want to be able to maintain everything they can within their local circle (state and federal) without being forced to reach out overseas to foreign companies such as John Deere. Eg: Our local farmers co-op run their own rail networks and bulk handling facilities. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CBH_Group https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CBH_Group * https://www.cbh.com.au/ https://www.cbh.com.au/ See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47131063 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47131063 > Software for farm equipment is very specific field. Meh - there's a lot of overlap with avionics, GIS data aquisition, mining equipment (autonomous trucks, trains, processing circuit control), general industrial applications, etc. I'm a farmer, but I've messed about with geophysical data aquisition across entire countries, industrial control, abstract algebra systems (Cayley / Magma), sheep shearing robotics, and other fun stuff.

defrost 8mo ago

.. and the farmers with firmware experience? "Farmers" aren't a monolithic lump of homogenous yokels with straw sticking out their teeth. The Ukranian farming community birthed the cracked and reverse engineered John Deere software now being uploaded into US tractors by US farmers to bypass kill switches, for custom addons, data retention, etc. #NotAllFarmers are SWEs, great welders, advanced diesel mechanics, pilots, ... but all these skillsets are within or closely adjacent to farming communities.

Braxton1980 8mo ago
I don't think he was calling them yokels. Software for farm equipment is very specific field. I don't think it would matter if they were software developers because that mostly means front end and back end web development.
- defrost 8mo ago
  > I don't think it would matter if they were software developers because that mostly means front end and back end web development. Really? I've been a software developer since 1980 or so, never ever touched web development .. horses for courses I guess. Interfacing with machines and instruments, no worries. Circling back, the farmers I know want to be able to maintain everything they can within their local circle (state and federal) without being forced to reach out overseas to foreign companies such as John Deere. Eg: Our local farmers co-op run their own rail networks and bulk handling facilities. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CBH_Group https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CBH_Group * https://www.cbh.com.au/ https://www.cbh.com.au/ See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47131063 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47131063 > Software for farm equipment is very specific field. Meh - there's a lot of overlap with avionics, GIS data aquisition, mining equipment (autonomous trucks, trains, processing circuit control), general industrial applications, etc. I'm a farmer, but I've messed about with geophysical data aquisition across entire countries, industrial control, abstract algebra systems (Cayley / Magma), sheep shearing robotics, and other fun stuff.