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There's a law going through in some state that want's to do this, but also put the onus on the OS developers to detect age aligned behavior. How do you do this

There's a law going through in some state that want's to do this, but also put the onus on the OS developers to detect age aligned behavior. How do you do this with Linux? It would kill the open computer and kill ownership over computing.

bigfishrunning 8mo ago
Why would it be a problem to do this sort of thing with linux? Linux allows for oauth, proxied networking, what have you -- unless they're using some super-secret-unpublished-protocol, linux will be fine I'm against these age-verification laws, but to say it's impossible to comply with open-source software isn't really true.
- tsimionescu 8mo ago
  The point is that you won't be able to just install a Linux distro of your choice in this world - your computer will only run approved OSs that have gone through some kind of certification process to make sure they enforce age-verification content. If, say, the Debian foundation doesn't want to add these mandatory controls because they feel it goes against the spirit of Debian (not to mention the huge issues with the GPL), then your new computer just won't be able to run Debian anymore. And something like Kali would be right out, of course, since anonymity is not compatible with age verification.
  - bigfishrunning 7mo ago
    Or, Conversely, these systems won't be able to verify age and will just be shut out of adult content. Which is fine, just keep a windows machine around for porn and do your actual work on a real computer
    - MSFT_Edging 7mo ago
      > Which is fine But it isn't fine. How long before that's no longer an option? A few years ago it was "Apple won't let me side load apps, which is fine, I'll run android" now that's coming back and getting locked down even more. How long before normal computers will all have signed bootloaders with only the OEM's OS of choice allowed to boot, 4 chains deep of verifying signatures on hardware security chips?
    - tsimionescu 7mo ago
      I can guarantee you that if this becomes ubiquitous and normalized for porn and social media, any code distribution site will be next.

bigfishrunning 8mo ago

Why would it be a problem to do this sort of thing with linux? Linux allows for oauth, proxied networking, what have you -- unless they're using some super-secret-unpublished-protocol, linux will be fine I'm against these age-verification laws, but to say it's impossible to comply with open-source software isn't really true.

tsimionescu 8mo ago
The point is that you won't be able to just install a Linux distro of your choice in this world - your computer will only run approved OSs that have gone through some kind of certification process to make sure they enforce age-verification content. If, say, the Debian foundation doesn't want to add these mandatory controls because they feel it goes against the spirit of Debian (not to mention the huge issues with the GPL), then your new computer just won't be able to run Debian anymore. And something like Kali would be right out, of course, since anonymity is not compatible with age verification.
- bigfishrunning 7mo ago
  Or, Conversely, these systems won't be able to verify age and will just be shut out of adult content. Which is fine, just keep a windows machine around for porn and do your actual work on a real computer
  - MSFT_Edging 7mo ago
    > Which is fine But it isn't fine. How long before that's no longer an option? A few years ago it was "Apple won't let me side load apps, which is fine, I'll run android" now that's coming back and getting locked down even more. How long before normal computers will all have signed bootloaders with only the OEM's OS of choice allowed to boot, 4 chains deep of verifying signatures on hardware security chips?
  - tsimionescu 7mo ago
    I can guarantee you that if this becomes ubiquitous and normalized for porn and social media, any code distribution site will be next.