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The easier fix seems like doxxing politicians and embarrassing them until they protect all of their constituents against things like this. We got a small modicu

The easier fix seems like doxxing politicians and embarrassing them until they protect all of their constituents against things like this. We got a small modicum of privacy with the Video Privacy Protection Act [0] after Bork's video rental history was going to be released. [0] https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=video+rental+laws https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=video+r...

pessimizer 8mo ago
That's not easier, and they don't have shame. They're proud of becoming wealthy.
- linkjuice4all 8mo ago
  I certainly agree about the lack of shame - but even if you destroyed all of the Flock cameras (and any other public traffic cams) you're still left with no actual protection for your private data. There's more of us then there are of them - so their wealth can't protect them from everything. They can and do buy privacy so there must be something worth protecting that the masses can expose using their same methods.
dyauspitr 8mo ago
Many in this administration are the lowest, least educated parts of their respective societies. They don’t have shame. You cannot shame them because this is literally their only way to make money.
- irl_zebra 8mo ago
  If shame were a motivator for this administration or the current grifter class, neither of these things would exist to the current Armageddon-level they currently do. That is to say, completely agree with your take here. There are plenty of government-entity examples of this, but my favorite I've seen recently was a video montage of Elon saying annually, like clockwork, that sully autonomous driving would be here in 2-3 years for the last 12 years or so. If these people had shame, he wouldn't be doing that, as an example.
  - handoflixue 8mo ago
    Curious to see the link to him saying that back in 2014, didn't realize he'd been saying it for quite that long!
xt00 8mo ago
I imagine there is a process in place to allow cities / states / communities to place the cameras on polls. If Vegas somehow got around public comment process to put these on poles, then what would stop any random company from requesting to put their own camera there? Like lets say a motivated individual went through some process to put a camera on a pole someplace near somebody that would definitely make the govt official / flock exec etc nervous, what is stopping them? It sounds an awful lot like Flock is basically going to town's and saying "we will put up a bunch of cameras in a bunch of places" probably based upon algorithm's etc. How do they decide where these get put, who gets to decide that? Why can't any random company request to put up a camera on a random power pole? After they give the map to the govt officials, do they get a chance to say "oh this one by my house, can you move that?"
- insane_dreamer 8mo ago
  I'm not sure that public comment can stop the city council from doing what they want in the end. This is the sort of thing that should be put to a city referendum.
- ImPostingOnHN 8mo ago
  The cities pay Flock to put cameras on city-owned poles because the city administrators want Flock and cops and ICE to have this data. > Why can't any random company request to put up a camera on a random power pole? Not owning the pole is usually the show stopper

pessimizer 8mo ago

That's not easier, and they don't have shame. They're proud of becoming wealthy.

linkjuice4all 8mo ago
I certainly agree about the lack of shame - but even if you destroyed all of the Flock cameras (and any other public traffic cams) you're still left with no actual protection for your private data. There's more of us then there are of them - so their wealth can't protect them from everything. They can and do buy privacy so there must be something worth protecting that the masses can expose using their same methods.

dyauspitr 8mo ago

Many in this administration are the lowest, least educated parts of their respective societies. They don’t have shame. You cannot shame them because this is literally their only way to make money.

irl_zebra 8mo ago
If shame were a motivator for this administration or the current grifter class, neither of these things would exist to the current Armageddon-level they currently do. That is to say, completely agree with your take here. There are plenty of government-entity examples of this, but my favorite I've seen recently was a video montage of Elon saying annually, like clockwork, that sully autonomous driving would be here in 2-3 years for the last 12 years or so. If these people had shame, he wouldn't be doing that, as an example.
- handoflixue 8mo ago
  Curious to see the link to him saying that back in 2014, didn't realize he'd been saying it for quite that long!

xt00 8mo ago

I imagine there is a process in place to allow cities / states / communities to place the cameras on polls. If Vegas somehow got around public comment process to put these on poles, then what would stop any random company from requesting to put their own camera there? Like lets say a motivated individual went through some process to put a camera on a pole someplace near somebody that would definitely make the govt official / flock exec etc nervous, what is stopping them? It sounds an awful lot like Flock is basically going to town's and saying "we will put up a bunch of cameras in a bunch of places" probably based upon algorithm's etc. How do they decide where these get put, who gets to decide that? Why can't any random company request to put up a camera on a random power pole? After they give the map to the govt officials, do they get a chance to say "oh this one by my house, can you move that?"

insane_dreamer 8mo ago
I'm not sure that public comment can stop the city council from doing what they want in the end. This is the sort of thing that should be put to a city referendum.
ImPostingOnHN 8mo ago
The cities pay Flock to put cameras on city-owned poles because the city administrators want Flock and cops and ICE to have this data. > Why can't any random company request to put up a camera on a random power pole? Not owning the pole is usually the show stopper