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They're trying to kidnap what Anthropic has rightfully stolen! Jokes and complete lack of sympathy aside, it does complicate the narrative that these small lab
by jsheard 8mo ago
They're trying to kidnap what Anthropic has rightfully stolen!
Jokes and complete lack of sympathy aside, it does complicate the narrative that these small labs are always on the heels of the big labs for pennies on the dollar, if they rely on distilling the big labs models. That means there still has to be big bucks coming from somewhere.
- Imustaskforhelp 8mo agoI don't see Z.ai (GLM 5) in the list though. I consider Qwen/Kimi to have a close relationship so I might not be sure but Qwen might be using Kimi data (I have written another comment in more depth) I still prefer kimi fwiw. It's one of the best models I have witnessed open source and when I tried GLM 5, it really was lacklustre for me on its launchday but I will have to see it for myself now comparing the two maybe as I do see GLM 5 do some good things in benchmarks but we all know how benchmarks should be less trusted. I still think that there is still some hope in chinese models even after this ie. they aren't completely dependent on the large models seeing GLM 5. I am seeing an accusation of GLM 5 doing Distillation[0] but I am not seeing any hard evidence of it. [0]: https://mtsoln.com/id/blog/wawasan-720/the-temu-fication-of-ai-the-truth-behind-glm-5-and-the-death-of-the-mid-market-5591 https://mtsoln.com/id/blog/wawasan-720/the-temu-fication-of-...
- nashadelic 8mo agosomething about Bill Gates telling Steve Jobs he didn't steal from him, he stole from their rich neighbour Parc
- ergocoder 8mo agoThe detail was different where 24,000 accounts weren't created to pull the data..
- nashadelic 8mo agoAnd they had hundreds of engineers reverse engineer the GUI smh