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This video is a really cool dive into EUV for the uninitiated (me) https://youtu.be/MiUHjLxm3V0?si=kEPSicC2WXYhcQ6L https://youtu.be/MiUHjLxm3V0?si=kEPSicC2WXYh
by et1337 7mo ago
This video is a really cool dive into EUV for the uninitiated (me) https://youtu.be/MiUHjLxm3V0?si=kEPSicC2WXYhcQ6L https://youtu.be/MiUHjLxm3V0?si=kEPSicC2WXYhcQ6L
- hinkley 7mo agoThe whole “exploding tiny drops of metal” in the middle of this is just Loony Toons. This machine is literally insane and two of the companies I am long-long on would be completely fucked without it.
- patmorgan23 7mo agoYou forgot WITH LASERS, and IN A VACUUM
- m4rtink 7mo agoIIRC from the Veritasium video[0] there is actually some hydrogen gas flowing at quite a high speed though the laser chamber to carry away the tin debris so that it does not accumulate on the mirrors. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiUHjLxm3V0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiUHjLxm3V0
- greggsy 7mo agoThey account to every single tiny atom somehow too, but I think I fell asleep last time I watched the video.
- leoc 7mo agoThe old SemiAccurate article https://semiaccurate.com/2013/02/13/euv-moves-forward-two-steps-back-one/ https://semiaccurate.com/2013/02/13/euv-moves-forward-two-st... was very funny.
- atonse 7mo agoYes it was crazy when I first heard about it "wait what? they shoot it in mid-air?" and that was before I found out they did that like 30k times a second. But now 100k times a second apparently. Humans are amazing.
- hinkley 7mo agoYou have a machine that’s basically a clean room inside and one of the parts is essentially electrosputtering tin but then throwing all the tin away and using the EM pulse from the sputter to do work. Oh and can you build it so it can run hundreds or thousands of hours before being cleaned? Thanks byyyyyyyyeeeeee!
- lelandbatey 7mo agoThe inside of those machines are far, far cleaner than the inside of any clean room ever entered by a human. They have to be molecularly clean.
- flowerthoughts 7mo ago> We are going to spray expensive stuff in an extremely fine and precise line. Then we're going to shoot a laser at each droplet. < Why?! > To make a better laser. < Yes, of course you are. > 100,000 times per second. < [AFK, buying shares.]
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- allenrb 7mo agoSeeing this news story made me briefly fear that they’d found a way to replace this glorious mechanism. Thankfully not. In fact, they’re going to shoot more droplets, more often! So much more fun than LEDs.
- PearlRiver 7mo agoThat is why each machine costs a few hundred million eurodollars.
- culi 7mo agoHere's your link without the surveillance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiUHjLxm3V0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiUHjLxm3V0
- hinkley 7mo agoOkay this is weird. > The key advancements in Monday's disclosure involved doubling the number of tin drops to about 100,000 every second, and shaping them into plasma using two smaller laser bursts, as opposed to today's machines that use a single shaping burst. This is covered in that video. Did they let him leak their Q1 plans?
- hobofan 7mo agoThat has been covered before in other videos[0] that this is their roadmap to higher power, so I'm also not sure what they have announced now that wasn't previously announced. [0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXnrzS3aGeM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXnrzS3aGeM
- hinkley 7mo agoFrom the first video I thought they had already shipped this, but it sounds like they were describing what their new model was. This seems like a product with a very very long sales pipeline, so I wonder if they work on pre-orders with existing customers but announce delivery milestones only as they come?
- eddyg 7mo agoOr this video, which came out before Veritasium's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2482h_TNwg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2482h_TNwg
- Hikikomori 7mo agohttps://youtu.be/NGFhc8R_uO4 https://youtu.be/NGFhc8R_uO4 Or this presentation which came out way long ago.
- kristjansson 7mo agoThis is worth the (re)watch every time it comes up.
- dylan604 7mo ago"I didn't want my name associated with this on the internet"
- avs733 7mo agoI didn’t, still don’t, but that’s a lost cause. I’ll note that this video is way out of date…both in content and my skills as a speaker :P
- blinding-streak 7mo agoThanks for the informative presentation!
- avs733 7mo agothanks for the HN community - the video is how I ended up here and its one of the few social media-esque sites I bother visiting. Taught me a pile of things about coding and CS that weren't in my mechanical engineering degree.
- Hikikomori 7mo ago
- seanalltogether 7mo agoThe thing I didn't understand after watching that video was why you need such an exotic solution to produce EUV light. We can make lights no problem in the visible spectrum, we can make xray machines easily enough that every doctors office can afford one, what is it specifically about those wavelengths that are so tricky.
- on_the_train 7mo agoIt really is the specific wavelength. Higher or lower is easier. But euv has tricky properties which make it feasible for Lithography (although just barely it you have a look at the optics) but hard to produce with high intensities.
- YetAnotherNick 7mo agoAny source to this? I am hearing this for the first time.
- s0rce 7mo agoITs easy to make X-rays, you just hit a metal target with electrons: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-ray_tube https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-ray_tube
- YetAnotherNick 7mo agoYou can hit metal the same way for EUV.
- s0rce 7mo agoI assume this doesn't work well otherwise everyone would be doing it.
- on_the_train 7mo agoNo you can't, or rather you only get a tiny amount in the correct wavelengths
- greggsy 7mo agoAsianometry has half a dozen or so videos of you want some really deep dives on the tech and industry (with sources, since we’re on HN)
- ghxst 7mo agoHighly recommend this video as well, he has a bunch more worth watching. https://youtu.be/rdlZ8KYVtPU?si=wgjkkNDSzuuS3lVK https://youtu.be/rdlZ8KYVtPU?si=wgjkkNDSzuuS3lVK
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- apexalpha 7mo agoOne of those odd moments where a YouTube title looks like clickbait but is actually, factually correct. +1 for this video, and the Branch education one. Well done to both teams.
- zvqcMMV6Zcr 7mo agoAs shown with that terrible speed of electricity video, Veritasium prefers "technically correct" over factually correct.
- jpfromlondon 7mo agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ge2RcvDlgw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ge2RcvDlgw Asianometry has lots of videos on ASML, this one is specifically about the light sources.
- throw0101a 7mo ago> https://youtu.be/MiUHjLxm3V0 https://youtu.be/MiUHjLxm3V0 PSA: the si (along with pp) parameter is used for tracking purposes: ?si=kEPSicC2WXYhcQ6L consider cutting whenever possible.