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In the 80s it was a thing to fly from Europe to the US to buy PC hardware and software. The price differences paid for the (expensive) flight costs and then som

by lysace 8mo ago

In the 80s it was a thing to fly from Europe to the US to buy PC hardware and software. The price differences paid for the (expensive) flight costs and then some.

NitpickLawyer 8mo ago
~2012 was the same thing. The usd was very low compared to eur, but the apple store sold things in ~same value in eur + tax. So you could legit buy an airplane ticket (not even a low cost, regular line was ok), visit NY for a weekend and buy a macbook, come back, and end up paying the same amount.
- vladvasiliu 8mo ago
  Not just Apple. Around 2010, I bought a tripod and head from the US. Had it delivered to France, paid all import duties and taxes and VAT (I single out VAT because, since taxing is the national sport, it's levied on top of the other taxes, which are also levied on shipping a big hunk of metal). It was around 25% cheaper than buying from a local store. Here's the kicker: the tripod and head were both produced in Italy. So it was somehow cheaper to ship them halfway around the world and pay import duties twice than to buy locally with no import duty (since it's the EU).
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- Markoff 8mo ago
  yeah, this applied to any pricier laptop or DSLR, though warranty could be a problem
bombcar 8mo ago
It's been true (maybe still is? Haven't checked) for quite awhile; people I know would always hit up the Apple Store when visiting the USA and return bearing gifts, because the price savings was quite noticeable.
WalterBright 8mo ago
In the 1980s, a friend got his start by buying packaged software in bulk from the US and reselling it in Europe. The retail price differences were large enough he made bank on it. It's called arbitrage. Eventually, other people figured it out and the prices leveled out. Arbitrage opportunities crop up all the time.
1-more 8mo ago
I remember when Adobe Creative Suite came out (I think?) and Australian said that a first class flight to Los Angeles and the American price were less than the Australian price. Hoping Bruce or Sheila [1] Cunningham [2] can chime in [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNBy1D1Y0h4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNBy1D1Y0h4 damn I was only familiar with the audio; this aged extremely poorly. [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ward_Cunningham#Cunningham's_Law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ward_Cunningham#Cunningham's_L...
- bgmeister 8mo ago
  The trip was worth considering for a few years. IIRC a first class ticket would have cost too much though. https://www.smh.com.au/technology/adobe-chief-dodges-questions-over-pricing-20130214-2eetr.html https://www.smh.com.au/technology/adobe-chief-dodges-questio...

by lysace 8mo ago

In the 80s it was a thing to fly from Europe to the US to buy PC hardware and software. The price differences paid for the (expensive) flight costs and then some.

NitpickLawyer 8mo ago

~2012 was the same thing. The usd was very low compared to eur, but the apple store sold things in ~same value in eur + tax. So you could legit buy an airplane ticket (not even a low cost, regular line was ok), visit NY for a weekend and buy a macbook, come back, and end up paying the same amount.

vladvasiliu 8mo ago
Not just Apple. Around 2010, I bought a tripod and head from the US. Had it delivered to France, paid all import duties and taxes and VAT (I single out VAT because, since taxing is the national sport, it's levied on top of the other taxes, which are also levied on shipping a big hunk of metal). It was around 25% cheaper than buying from a local store. Here's the kicker: the tripod and head were both produced in Italy. So it was somehow cheaper to ship them halfway around the world and pay import duties twice than to buy locally with no import duty (since it's the EU).
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Markoff 8mo ago
yeah, this applied to any pricier laptop or DSLR, though warranty could be a problem

bombcar 8mo ago

It's been true (maybe still is? Haven't checked) for quite awhile; people I know would always hit up the Apple Store when visiting the USA and return bearing gifts, because the price savings was quite noticeable.

WalterBright 8mo ago

In the 1980s, a friend got his start by buying packaged software in bulk from the US and reselling it in Europe. The retail price differences were large enough he made bank on it. It's called arbitrage. Eventually, other people figured it out and the prices leveled out. Arbitrage opportunities crop up all the time.

1-more 8mo ago

I remember when Adobe Creative Suite came out (I think?) and Australian said that a first class flight to Los Angeles and the American price were less than the Australian price. Hoping Bruce or Sheila [1] Cunningham [2] can chime in [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNBy1D1Y0h4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNBy1D1Y0h4 damn I was only familiar with the audio; this aged extremely poorly. [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ward_Cunningham#Cunningham's_Law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ward_Cunningham#Cunningham's_L...

bgmeister 8mo ago
The trip was worth considering for a few years. IIRC a first class ticket would have cost too much though. https://www.smh.com.au/technology/adobe-chief-dodges-questions-over-pricing-20130214-2eetr.html https://www.smh.com.au/technology/adobe-chief-dodges-questio...