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The PDF is digitally signed with a cert from the Finnish „Digital and Population Data Services Agency“

by andor 8mo ago

hipsdontlie 8mo ago
Unfortunately that's not the same as VTT. VTT would be more like "National Institute of Scientific Research"
- mrtksn 8mo ago
  It says its sign by this guy: https://www.vttresearch.com/en/news-and-ideas/petri-soderena-takes-lead-developing-transportation-research https://www.vttresearch.com/en/news-and-ideas/petri-soderena... He has an e-mail address and a phone number, I doubt that if the report is falsified it won't come out.
  - hipsdontlie 8mo ago
    I just found a video of the same guy selling some magical AGI thing 9 months ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilgJKjiDLV8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilgJKjiDLV8 Promising the moon and stars just like with Donut. Donut Labs also had a video presentation of some kind of automotive design software that also sounded too good to be true. This guy is a serial scammer.
    - mrtksn 8mo ago
      Elon Musk sells self driving cars since 10 years that don't self drive but his cars are actually decent cars and his rockets are revolutionary. Also, who isn't selling magical AGI since the last 4 years? I think i will judge the battery and the magical AGI separately. The guy also sells magical motors that appear to be real with people riding motorbikes with those motors.
- swongel 8mo ago
  Well there's this press release they would publish a report: https://www.vttresearch.com/en/news-and-ideas/donut-lab-commissioned-vtt-carry-out-battery-measurements-support-its-product https://www.vttresearch.com/en/news-and-ideas/donut-lab-comm... with as author the same name on the digital signature "Petri Söderena" for Organisation "Teknologian tutkimuskeskus VTT" and the chain is attested by "DVV Organisational Certificates - G4E" which is on the EU/EEA trusted list: https://eidas.ec.europa.eu/efda/trust-services/browse/eidas/tls/tl/FI/tsp/1/service/15 https://eidas.ec.europa.eu/efda/trust-services/browse/eidas/... (by name and key signature). Looks like a legit VTT document to me.
rmu09 8mo ago
I think it is safe to assume, given the buzz all around the donut battery, that VTT would immediately release a statement if this report was fake. edit: https://www.vttresearch.com/en/news-and-ideas/donut-lab-commissioned-vtt-carry-out-battery-measurements-support-its-product https://www.vttresearch.com/en/news-and-ideas/donut-lab-comm...

The PDF is digitally signed with a cert from the Finnish „Digital and Population Data Services Agency“

by andor 8mo ago

The PDF is digitally signed with a cert from the Finnish „Digital and Population Data Services Agency“

hipsdontlie 8mo ago

Unfortunately that's not the same as VTT. VTT would be more like "National Institute of Scientific Research"

mrtksn 8mo ago
It says its sign by this guy: https://www.vttresearch.com/en/news-and-ideas/petri-soderena-takes-lead-developing-transportation-research https://www.vttresearch.com/en/news-and-ideas/petri-soderena... He has an e-mail address and a phone number, I doubt that if the report is falsified it won't come out.
- hipsdontlie 8mo ago
  I just found a video of the same guy selling some magical AGI thing 9 months ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilgJKjiDLV8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilgJKjiDLV8 Promising the moon and stars just like with Donut. Donut Labs also had a video presentation of some kind of automotive design software that also sounded too good to be true. This guy is a serial scammer.
  - mrtksn 8mo ago
    Elon Musk sells self driving cars since 10 years that don't self drive but his cars are actually decent cars and his rockets are revolutionary. Also, who isn't selling magical AGI since the last 4 years? I think i will judge the battery and the magical AGI separately. The guy also sells magical motors that appear to be real with people riding motorbikes with those motors.
swongel 8mo ago
Well there's this press release they would publish a report: https://www.vttresearch.com/en/news-and-ideas/donut-lab-commissioned-vtt-carry-out-battery-measurements-support-its-product https://www.vttresearch.com/en/news-and-ideas/donut-lab-comm... with as author the same name on the digital signature "Petri Söderena" for Organisation "Teknologian tutkimuskeskus VTT" and the chain is attested by "DVV Organisational Certificates - G4E" which is on the EU/EEA trusted list: https://eidas.ec.europa.eu/efda/trust-services/browse/eidas/tls/tl/FI/tsp/1/service/15 https://eidas.ec.europa.eu/efda/trust-services/browse/eidas/... (by name and key signature). Looks like a legit VTT document to me.

rmu09 8mo ago

I think it is safe to assume, given the buzz all around the donut battery, that VTT would immediately release a statement if this report was fake. edit: https://www.vttresearch.com/en/news-and-ideas/donut-lab-commissioned-vtt-carry-out-battery-measurements-support-its-product https://www.vttresearch.com/en/news-and-ideas/donut-lab-comm...