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> it can stay irrational for long enough to destroy everything we know in tech What does this even mean? I know people on the internet sometimes exaggerate, bu

> it can stay irrational for long enough to destroy everything we know in tech What does this even mean? I know people on the internet sometimes exaggerate, but I cannot even begin to find a more charitable meaning with this, what exactly will be "destroyed" in "tech" because of prices going up for a year or two?

gck1 9mo ago
Here's an easy experiment to conduct: look around the room at your home and count all the devices that have a CPU, RAM, SSD or HDD. Then take a look at your bank statement to see what are the services you pay for monthly that also require the same hardware. Now, imagine that these devices or services can no longer procure RAM, SSD or HDD. There's no more available supply for these components, because this is what's happening. Would you still be able to have these devices if they all broke tomorrow? What about your hypothetical Backblaze subscription? Would you still be able to have an off-site backup?
- embedding-shape 9mo ago
  > imagine that these devices or services can no longer procure RAM, SSD or HDD Why would I imagine something so far out from what will realistically happen? Again, a lot of doom and gloom over very unrealistic scenarios. Where are you even getting this from, YouTube channels? Of course if there is no RAM or flash-storage at all available, eventually hardware will be unfeasible. But when we've experienced these sort of things before, it eventually restores to "normal" prices, and there absolutely nothing pointing to what we're experiencing now to get even worse, if anything it's already stabilized.
  - iso1631 9mo ago
    You don't have to look too far back in history -- look at the supply squeeze during covid, or even just during the Suez closure by the Evergiven.
    - infecto 9mo ago
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  - ErneX 9mo ago
    Valve had to delay a bunch of new products already. They also had to effectively discontinue the non-OLED Steam Deck due to the increased prices. https://www.theverge.com/games/874196/valve-steam-machine-frame-controller-delay-pricing-memory-crisis https://www.theverge.com/games/874196/valve-steam-machine-fr...
    - embedding-shape 9mo ago
      Yeah, which shows that Valve don't think "these devices or services can no longer procure RAM, SSD or HDD" is actually what'll happen in reality, because then they'd have to cancel the hardware fully. Instead, they're delaying it.
      - ErneX 9mo ago
        With a likely price increase. Regarding OP, I don’t think they implied this will last forever, but is definitely concerning.
        embedding-shape 9mo ago
        I jumped into the discussion because of this hyperbole: > to destroy everything we know in tech Valve (temporarily) increasing the pricing of yet-to-launch hardware wasn't where I thought we'd land at with my first comment, I somehow also have the feeling that that wasn't what GP had in mind either,.
  - wiredpancake 9mo ago
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- iso1631 9mo ago
  My laptop's 8 years old, if I can't get memory I'll just have to sweat it a little longer. Same with my NAS drive Same with work -- I've just ordered some replacements for 13 year old servers in one office, but if it was more economical to repair them

gck1 9mo ago

Here's an easy experiment to conduct: look around the room at your home and count all the devices that have a CPU, RAM, SSD or HDD. Then take a look at your bank statement to see what are the services you pay for monthly that also require the same hardware. Now, imagine that these devices or services can no longer procure RAM, SSD or HDD. There's no more available supply for these components, because this is what's happening. Would you still be able to have these devices if they all broke tomorrow? What about your hypothetical Backblaze subscription? Would you still be able to have an off-site backup?

embedding-shape 9mo ago
> imagine that these devices or services can no longer procure RAM, SSD or HDD Why would I imagine something so far out from what will realistically happen? Again, a lot of doom and gloom over very unrealistic scenarios. Where are you even getting this from, YouTube channels? Of course if there is no RAM or flash-storage at all available, eventually hardware will be unfeasible. But when we've experienced these sort of things before, it eventually restores to "normal" prices, and there absolutely nothing pointing to what we're experiencing now to get even worse, if anything it's already stabilized.
- iso1631 9mo ago
  You don't have to look too far back in history -- look at the supply squeeze during covid, or even just during the Suez closure by the Evergiven.
  - infecto 9mo ago
    [flagged]
- ErneX 9mo ago
  Valve had to delay a bunch of new products already. They also had to effectively discontinue the non-OLED Steam Deck due to the increased prices. https://www.theverge.com/games/874196/valve-steam-machine-frame-controller-delay-pricing-memory-crisis https://www.theverge.com/games/874196/valve-steam-machine-fr...
  - embedding-shape 9mo ago
    Yeah, which shows that Valve don't think "these devices or services can no longer procure RAM, SSD or HDD" is actually what'll happen in reality, because then they'd have to cancel the hardware fully. Instead, they're delaying it.
    - ErneX 9mo ago
      With a likely price increase. Regarding OP, I don’t think they implied this will last forever, but is definitely concerning.
      - embedding-shape 9mo ago
        I jumped into the discussion because of this hyperbole: > to destroy everything we know in tech Valve (temporarily) increasing the pricing of yet-to-launch hardware wasn't where I thought we'd land at with my first comment, I somehow also have the feeling that that wasn't what GP had in mind either,.
- wiredpancake 9mo ago
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iso1631 9mo ago
My laptop's 8 years old, if I can't get memory I'll just have to sweat it a little longer. Same with my NAS drive Same with work -- I've just ordered some replacements for 13 year old servers in one office, but if it was more economical to repair them