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I'd argue Ladybird itself is a "hype" project.

throwaway2037 8mo ago
Fair point. What does Ladybird need to achieve in your opinion to shake the "hype" label? Honestly, I, myself, don't have a good answer!
- pelagicAustral 8mo ago
  > What does Ladybird need to achieve in your opinion to shake the "hype" label? A release (?)
  - gkbrk 8mo ago
    Somehow people manage to run it without this magical release
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  - drnick1 8mo ago
    I mean you can build and try Ladybird for yourself. I posted on HN from it a while back.
- thrdbndndn 8mo ago
  To me, a project's "hype-ness" is the ratio of how much attention it gets over how useful it actually is to users. As a browser, Ladybird usefulness is currently quite limited for obvious reasons. This is not meant to dismiss its achievements, nor to overlook the fact that building a truly useful browser for everyday users is something few open source teams can accomplish without the backing of a billion dollar company. Still, in its present state, its practical utility remains limited.
  - shevy-java 8mo ago
    Good verdict. I agree. Ladybird will have to deliver eventually - on this part I think many people agree with.
  - JumpCrisscross 8mo ago
    > As a browser, Ladybird usefulness is currently quite limited for obvious reasons By this definition all basic research is hype.
    - smartmic 8mo ago
      No, not necessarily. It's the ratio and for most basic research the numerator of the fraction is also approaching zero.
      - JumpCrisscross 8mo ago
        Yes, necessarily. Basic research is currently useless in the same way building something that hasn’t been built is currently useless.
Fervicus 8mo ago
Anything trying to break the browser monopolies in a meaningful way deserves the hype, IMO.
- andrekandre 8mo ago
  > monopolies sorry to be pedantic but, do you mean perhaps oligopolies? and by that do you mean marketshare or technology share? i'm just curious what people are looking for in ladybird (just better tech or better or governance?)

throwaway2037 8mo ago

Fair point. What does Ladybird need to achieve in your opinion to shake the "hype" label? Honestly, I, myself, don't have a good answer!

pelagicAustral 8mo ago
> What does Ladybird need to achieve in your opinion to shake the "hype" label? A release (?)
- gkbrk 8mo ago
  Somehow people manage to run it without this magical release
  - deleted 8mo ago
    [deleted]
- drnick1 8mo ago
  I mean you can build and try Ladybird for yourself. I posted on HN from it a while back.
thrdbndndn 8mo ago
To me, a project's "hype-ness" is the ratio of how much attention it gets over how useful it actually is to users. As a browser, Ladybird usefulness is currently quite limited for obvious reasons. This is not meant to dismiss its achievements, nor to overlook the fact that building a truly useful browser for everyday users is something few open source teams can accomplish without the backing of a billion dollar company. Still, in its present state, its practical utility remains limited.
- shevy-java 8mo ago
  Good verdict. I agree. Ladybird will have to deliver eventually - on this part I think many people agree with.
- JumpCrisscross 8mo ago
  > As a browser, Ladybird usefulness is currently quite limited for obvious reasons By this definition all basic research is hype.
  - smartmic 8mo ago
    No, not necessarily. It's the ratio and for most basic research the numerator of the fraction is also approaching zero.
    - JumpCrisscross 8mo ago
      Yes, necessarily. Basic research is currently useless in the same way building something that hasn’t been built is currently useless.

Fervicus 8mo ago

Anything trying to break the browser monopolies in a meaningful way deserves the hype, IMO.

andrekandre 8mo ago
> monopolies sorry to be pedantic but, do you mean perhaps oligopolies? and by that do you mean marketshare or technology share? i'm just curious what people are looking for in ladybird (just better tech or better or governance?)