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Interestingly editorialized title omits “with help from AI”.

by mosura 8mo ago

supriyo-biswas 8mo ago
A LLM-assisted codebase migration is perhaps one of the better use cases for them, and interestingly the author advocates for a hands-on approach. Adding the "with help from AI" almost always devolves the discussion from that to "developers must adopt AI or else!" on the one hand and "society is being destroyed by slop!" on the other, so as long as that's not happening I'm not complaining about the editorialized title.
alpinisme 8mo ago
That’s probably just the classic HackerNews title shortening algorithm at work.
- throwaway2037 8mo ago
  > classic HackerNews title shortening algorithm Woah, this is a wild claim. @dang: Is this a thing? I don't believe it. I, myself, have submitted many articles and never once did I see some auto-magical "title shortening algorithm" at work!
  - logicprog 8mo ago
    I've seen it happen a couple times, iirc, it removes things after commas, and removes certain words as well
    - ivanjermakov 8mo ago
      Adds [video] to YouTube links, too.
  - simlevesque 8mo ago
    It's been confirmed by @dang many times before. I'm not sure if that's what cut the title here but I've seen it many times in the last 10 years.
  - tomhow 8mo ago
    It's not exactly an auto-magical "title shortening algorithm"; just a simple software function that cleans up titles by removing common title patterns that are baity, abusive, ugly or superfluous. It wasn't the cause of this change; the submitter submitted it without the “with help from AI” part, for some reason.
- sjosh 8mo ago
  I went to check if this was documented in the list of undocumented HN features on GitHub but it’s not. There is an open PR (by simonw btw): https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented/pull/48/commits/4ba361112607a06613814df7564e10136a57fda3 https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented/pull/4...
- tomhow 8mo ago
  It wasn't. The submitter submitted it with the title “Ladybird Browser adopts Rust”. We initially changed it to “Ladybird adopts Rust”, and now I've changed it to the original title, per the guidelines. The automatic title cleaner wouldn't make a change like that.
FpUser 8mo ago
I think we've come to the point when it should be the opposite for any new code, something in line of: "done without AI". Bein an old fart working in software development I have many friends working as very senior developers. Every single one of them including yours truly uses AI. I use AI more and more. Goes like create me classes A,B,C with such and such descriptive names, take this state machine / flowchart description to understand the flow and use this particular sets of helpers declared in modules XYZ I then test the code and then go over and look at any un-optimal and other patterns I prefer not to have and asking to change those. After couple of iterations code usually shines. I also cross check final results against various LLMs just in case

Interestingly editorialized title omits “with help from AI”.

by mosura 8mo ago

Interestingly editorialized title omits “with help from AI”.

A LLM-assisted codebase migration is perhaps one of the better use cases for them, and interestingly the author advocates for a hands-on approach. Adding the "with help from AI" almost always devolves the discussion from that to "developers must adopt AI or else!" on the one hand and "society is being destroyed by slop!" on the other, so as long as that's not happening I'm not complaining about the editorialized title.

alpinisme 8mo ago

That’s probably just the classic HackerNews title shortening algorithm at work.

throwaway2037 8mo ago
> classic HackerNews title shortening algorithm Woah, this is a wild claim. @dang: Is this a thing? I don't believe it. I, myself, have submitted many articles and never once did I see some auto-magical "title shortening algorithm" at work!
- logicprog 8mo ago
  I've seen it happen a couple times, iirc, it removes things after commas, and removes certain words as well
  - ivanjermakov 8mo ago
    Adds [video] to YouTube links, too.
- simlevesque 8mo ago
  It's been confirmed by @dang many times before. I'm not sure if that's what cut the title here but I've seen it many times in the last 10 years.
- tomhow 8mo ago
  It's not exactly an auto-magical "title shortening algorithm"; just a simple software function that cleans up titles by removing common title patterns that are baity, abusive, ugly or superfluous. It wasn't the cause of this change; the submitter submitted it without the “with help from AI” part, for some reason.
sjosh 8mo ago
I went to check if this was documented in the list of undocumented HN features on GitHub but it’s not. There is an open PR (by simonw btw): https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented/pull/48/commits/4ba361112607a06613814df7564e10136a57fda3 https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented/pull/4...
tomhow 8mo ago
It wasn't. The submitter submitted it with the title “Ladybird Browser adopts Rust”. We initially changed it to “Ladybird adopts Rust”, and now I've changed it to the original title, per the guidelines. The automatic title cleaner wouldn't make a change like that.

FpUser 8mo ago

I think we've come to the point when it should be the opposite for any new code, something in line of: "done without AI". Bein an old fart working in software development I have many friends working as very senior developers. Every single one of them including yours truly uses AI. I use AI more and more. Goes like create me classes A,B,C with such and such descriptive names, take this state machine / flowchart description to understand the flow and use this particular sets of helpers declared in modules XYZ I then test the code and then go over and look at any un-optimal and other patterns I prefer not to have and asking to change those. After couple of iterations code usually shines. I also cross check final results against various LLMs just in case