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Please be more specific. Church is 2000 years old.

by karel-3d 8mo ago

Lionga 8mo ago
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- karel-3d 8mo ago
  It will surprise you but we don't literally believe there is a face in the sky looking down.
  - Lionga 8mo ago
    It will surprise you but almost all religious people I talked to believe that.
    - karel-3d 8mo ago
      There is no face. The depictions of God the Father are relatively new (in the history of the church; it's still Renaissance). Some people used to have problem with them (Jesus can be depicted, as he was a man, but can be Father?) but then it calmed down. If people think it's literally a face in the sky, they are probably mentally challenged.
      - Lionga 8mo ago
        I think it is a bit rude of you to call most religious people mentally challenged.
        1718627440 8mo ago
        It isn't because he already rejected your premise.
  - DonHopkins 8mo ago
    Yeah, but you literally and officially hate LGBTQ+ people, treat women as property, condone slavery, and literally hallucinate that crackers and wine are flesh and blood in spite of what your eyes, nose, taste buds, and all scientific instruments and measurements tell you. Edit: yet you can't counter the objective fact that the Catholic Church is a hateful abusive power hungry cult full of dogmatically hallucinating lunatics, homophobes, and misogynists. Go eat your Jesus flesh and drink your Jesus blood, you cannibalistic vampire whack job. You know as well as I do that the bible and church writings are chock full of evidence proving my point, so you can google it yourself. And you also know that your church has such a long sordid history of raping children and protecting rapist priests than Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor's molestations and Trump's protection of pedophiles make them look like saints in comparison, and you can google that yourself too. You don't deserve the favor of me giving you proof of something you already know to be true, because you're not arguing in good faith, you know very well you're wrong and I'm right and that all the evidence is on my side and easily found and documented, and I know very well you will reject all fact based evidence because of your bad faith.
    - wolvesechoes 8mo ago
      Man, you are straight out of some meme generator back from Dawkins's heyday. > treat women as property, condone slavery Any examples in Church writings?
    - bigstrat2003 8mo ago
      My brother, literally not one of your claims is true. I'm not sure where you have gotten the idea that such lies are the truth, but you really should reconsider your position. You seem to be very angry at the church (based on you posting this sort of thing all up and down the thread), but believing outright false ideas about the church isn't going to fix anything.
    - 1718627440 8mo ago
      > literally hallucinate that crackers and wine are flesh and blood in spite of what your eyes, nose, taste buds, and all scientific instruments and measurements tell you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucharistic_miracle#Scientific_analysis_of_flesh_and_blood_miracles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucharistic_miracle#Scientific... https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12491371/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12491371/ You might not agree with it, but it is not as simple as it defying all sensory input and data.
- Sharlin 8mo ago
  Impossible to know if this is a serious case of "i am very smart" or sarcastic.

Please be more specific. Church is 2000 years old.

Lionga 8mo ago

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karel-3d 8mo ago
It will surprise you but we don't literally believe there is a face in the sky looking down.
- Lionga 8mo ago
  It will surprise you but almost all religious people I talked to believe that.
  - karel-3d 8mo ago
    There is no face. The depictions of God the Father are relatively new (in the history of the church; it's still Renaissance). Some people used to have problem with them (Jesus can be depicted, as he was a man, but can be Father?) but then it calmed down. If people think it's literally a face in the sky, they are probably mentally challenged.
    - Lionga 8mo ago
      I think it is a bit rude of you to call most religious people mentally challenged.
      - 1718627440 8mo ago
        It isn't because he already rejected your premise.
- DonHopkins 8mo ago
  Yeah, but you literally and officially hate LGBTQ+ people, treat women as property, condone slavery, and literally hallucinate that crackers and wine are flesh and blood in spite of what your eyes, nose, taste buds, and all scientific instruments and measurements tell you. Edit: yet you can't counter the objective fact that the Catholic Church is a hateful abusive power hungry cult full of dogmatically hallucinating lunatics, homophobes, and misogynists. Go eat your Jesus flesh and drink your Jesus blood, you cannibalistic vampire whack job. You know as well as I do that the bible and church writings are chock full of evidence proving my point, so you can google it yourself. And you also know that your church has such a long sordid history of raping children and protecting rapist priests than Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor's molestations and Trump's protection of pedophiles make them look like saints in comparison, and you can google that yourself too. You don't deserve the favor of me giving you proof of something you already know to be true, because you're not arguing in good faith, you know very well you're wrong and I'm right and that all the evidence is on my side and easily found and documented, and I know very well you will reject all fact based evidence because of your bad faith.
  - wolvesechoes 8mo ago
    Man, you are straight out of some meme generator back from Dawkins's heyday. > treat women as property, condone slavery Any examples in Church writings?
  - bigstrat2003 8mo ago
    My brother, literally not one of your claims is true. I'm not sure where you have gotten the idea that such lies are the truth, but you really should reconsider your position. You seem to be very angry at the church (based on you posting this sort of thing all up and down the thread), but believing outright false ideas about the church isn't going to fix anything.
  - 1718627440 8mo ago
    > literally hallucinate that crackers and wine are flesh and blood in spite of what your eyes, nose, taste buds, and all scientific instruments and measurements tell you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucharistic_miracle#Scientific_analysis_of_flesh_and_blood_miracles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucharistic_miracle#Scientific... https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12491371/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12491371/ You might not agree with it, but it is not as simple as it defying all sensory input and data.
Sharlin 8mo ago
Impossible to know if this is a serious case of "i am very smart" or sarcastic.