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I don’t know, these chants of “river to the sea” accompanied by signs with maps of israel fully covered with a Palestinian flag tell me the opposite. > if you

by fortzi 8mo ago

I don’t know, these chants of “river to the sea” accompanied by signs with maps of israel fully covered with a Palestinian flag tell me the opposite. > if you poll Israelis about their views of Palestinians, you'll find that the majority want to exterminate them all Can you point me to that poll, or is that just your opinion? > Zionists are clearly calling for the ethnic cleansing of Gaza First of all, you clearly don’t know what Zionism is. Hell, it means different things for different people. Let me help you out: for most Israelis, Zionism is about independence and sovereignty for the jewish people. While there are Israelies who want the Palestinians out, only the crazies are actually considering it as a plausible reality. These crazies gain more political power the more the general population loses its faith the Palestinians are wanting peace, as opposed to fighting to the last man standing. You should read about the Oslo accords and the later failed talks at Camp David. Lastly, wanting to vote for Hamas is absolutely not about wanting the war to end, as Hamas is a perpetrator of it. How did you make this astonishing logical leap?

dataflow 8mo ago
>> if you poll Israelis about their views of Palestinians, you'll find that the majority want to exterminate them all > Can you point me to that poll, or is that just your opinion? Not the parent, and not claiming anything about the truth or falsehood of this, but your comment got me to Google it, and this is what I found: https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/majority-israelis-support-expulsion-palestinians-gaza-poll https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/majority-israelis-support... https://www.trtworld.com/article/8802bc2d5043 https://www.trtworld.com/article/8802bc2d5043 Original source appears to be here: https://www.haaretz.co.il/magazine/2025-05-22/ty-article-magazine/.highlight/00000196-f3a3-d6d3-ab9e-f3bbf6070000 https://www.haaretz.co.il/magazine/2025-05-22/ty-article-mag... Is this what you were asking for? What do you think of it?
- fortzi 8mo ago
  It sounds crazy to me, and indeed very disturbing if it was true. However if it was true, I would have known at least one person to fit the image they’re portraying. I know none. I tried to find the original publication, but all I found was press coverage. Specifically I’m interested in the demographics - who was asked these questions, aside from the religious attributes that they name.
  - thrance 8mo ago
    The correct course of actions is to reexamine your beliefs in light of the new evidence that was presented to it, not shut off your mind completely. If you still doubt its truth, you can easily get more with a quick google search. Also, it's not like Israel's government ever tried to hide their genocidal rhetoric (well, outside of the PR they serve the West, of course).
    - fortzi 8mo ago
      I did spend quite some time trying to find the original publication to no avail, thank you very much. If it’s so easy, maybe you’ll be kind enough to help me. Just let me know if you find an actual rigorous paper or just an outrage piece meant to horrify everyone. I am aware of this rhetoric you mention, I hate it myself, but I believe that it’s populist bullshit, just like most things this government is saying, including stuff that doesn’t get worldwide coverage, and are intended to cause outrage and get media coverage. This pattern (sadly) repeats in most western nations nowadays. If there was ever an actual intent to get rid of the Palestinians, you would get an order of magnitude more dead. The means exist, not the intent.
Rover222 8mo ago
Good comment

by fortzi 8mo ago

dataflow 8mo ago

>> if you poll Israelis about their views of Palestinians, you'll find that the majority want to exterminate them all > Can you point me to that poll, or is that just your opinion? Not the parent, and not claiming anything about the truth or falsehood of this, but your comment got me to Google it, and this is what I found: https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/majority-israelis-support-expulsion-palestinians-gaza-poll https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/majority-israelis-support... https://www.trtworld.com/article/8802bc2d5043 https://www.trtworld.com/article/8802bc2d5043 Original source appears to be here: https://www.haaretz.co.il/magazine/2025-05-22/ty-article-magazine/.highlight/00000196-f3a3-d6d3-ab9e-f3bbf6070000 https://www.haaretz.co.il/magazine/2025-05-22/ty-article-mag... Is this what you were asking for? What do you think of it?

fortzi 8mo ago
It sounds crazy to me, and indeed very disturbing if it was true. However if it was true, I would have known at least one person to fit the image they’re portraying. I know none. I tried to find the original publication, but all I found was press coverage. Specifically I’m interested in the demographics - who was asked these questions, aside from the religious attributes that they name.
- thrance 8mo ago
  The correct course of actions is to reexamine your beliefs in light of the new evidence that was presented to it, not shut off your mind completely. If you still doubt its truth, you can easily get more with a quick google search. Also, it's not like Israel's government ever tried to hide their genocidal rhetoric (well, outside of the PR they serve the West, of course).
  - fortzi 8mo ago
    I did spend quite some time trying to find the original publication to no avail, thank you very much. If it’s so easy, maybe you’ll be kind enough to help me. Just let me know if you find an actual rigorous paper or just an outrage piece meant to horrify everyone. I am aware of this rhetoric you mention, I hate it myself, but I believe that it’s populist bullshit, just like most things this government is saying, including stuff that doesn’t get worldwide coverage, and are intended to cause outrage and get media coverage. This pattern (sadly) repeats in most western nations nowadays. If there was ever an actual intent to get rid of the Palestinians, you would get an order of magnitude more dead. The means exist, not the intent.

Rover222 8mo ago

Good comment