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In the music space, piracy won. After Napster, there was no going back from giving people immediate unlimited access to everything. Streamers like Spotify lea

In the music space, piracy won. After Napster, there was no going back from giving people immediate unlimited access to everything. Streamers like Spotify learned that there’s a price point that is low enough for people to “round down” and forget it’s on their monthly credit card statement, but high enough that major label execs are happy. The trick is ignoring what the artists want.

eucyclos 8mo ago
Bandcamp does ok without ignoring what the artists want. I think the biggest issue with buying directly from the musician isn't the price but the friction of purchasing online
- gsinclair 8mo ago
  And the friction of storing stuff. I want to listen to music, not manage a collection.
  - zahlman 8mo ago
    Takes all kinds, I guess. If I don't have it permanently (or at least non-transiently) recorded on physical media that resides within my living space, I can't feel like I "own" it.
k12sosse 8mo ago
Jokes on us, after all has settled. Have you tried to buy a ticket to live music lately? It was $750 for a good seat in more than 1 occasion this past year, and that is first market tickets from the venue, not a traditionally 'scalped' ticket. These two equations are tied together. Before, the lucky artists were front-loaded their buckets of cash from the labels. But now the royalty cheques are measured in pennies and the live music enjoyers seem to be the equalization payments.
- jamboca 8mo ago
  jesus go to a basement it's like $15 at most and you can meet actual artists
  - parpfish 8mo ago
    Most of the people that complain about ticket prices are going to ticketmaster venues to see elaborate productions built by the biggest artists in the world. When I tell people that I used to go to at least one show every week on my grad student stipend they are very confused. It’s because I was seeing music by local bands or up-and-coming acts that would charge $10 in the back of a dive bar. Those types of shows aren’t $10 any more, but they are still cheap. And those are the artists that are in the most need of your financial support with tickets and merch. Once an artist is big enough to book an arena… they ain’t struggling
    - atomicnumber3 8mo ago
      Lots of local metal shows are in the $15 range, so not too far off
      - defrost 8mo ago
        Growing up the Pub Rock scene was pretty eclectic and cost less than buying a round for your friends. The Old Greek Theatre staged some high Art at times: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxoODPQ4CTM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxoODPQ4CTM
- femto 8mo ago
  $5 at the local Blues Jam Session. Some of the music is good. https://www.facebook.com/groups/berowramonthlyjam/ https://www.facebook.com/groups/berowramonthlyjam/ $30 or "free" at Miss Celie's. If free, patrons are asked to buy a couple of drinks from the bar. https://misscelies.com.au/ https://misscelies.com.au/ An import playing a stadium is eye-watering, but why bother?
- inigyou 8mo ago
TiredOfLife 8mo ago
The artists wanted to sign with labels.

eucyclos 8mo ago

Bandcamp does ok without ignoring what the artists want. I think the biggest issue with buying directly from the musician isn't the price but the friction of purchasing online

gsinclair 8mo ago
And the friction of storing stuff. I want to listen to music, not manage a collection.
- zahlman 8mo ago
  Takes all kinds, I guess. If I don't have it permanently (or at least non-transiently) recorded on physical media that resides within my living space, I can't feel like I "own" it.

k12sosse 8mo ago

Jokes on us, after all has settled. Have you tried to buy a ticket to live music lately? It was $750 for a good seat in more than 1 occasion this past year, and that is first market tickets from the venue, not a traditionally 'scalped' ticket. These two equations are tied together. Before, the lucky artists were front-loaded their buckets of cash from the labels. But now the royalty cheques are measured in pennies and the live music enjoyers seem to be the equalization payments.

jamboca 8mo ago
jesus go to a basement it's like $15 at most and you can meet actual artists
- parpfish 8mo ago
  Most of the people that complain about ticket prices are going to ticketmaster venues to see elaborate productions built by the biggest artists in the world. When I tell people that I used to go to at least one show every week on my grad student stipend they are very confused. It’s because I was seeing music by local bands or up-and-coming acts that would charge $10 in the back of a dive bar. Those types of shows aren’t $10 any more, but they are still cheap. And those are the artists that are in the most need of your financial support with tickets and merch. Once an artist is big enough to book an arena… they ain’t struggling
  - atomicnumber3 8mo ago
    Lots of local metal shows are in the $15 range, so not too far off
    - defrost 8mo ago
      Growing up the Pub Rock scene was pretty eclectic and cost less than buying a round for your friends. The Old Greek Theatre staged some high Art at times: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxoODPQ4CTM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxoODPQ4CTM
femto 8mo ago
$5 at the local Blues Jam Session. Some of the music is good. https://www.facebook.com/groups/berowramonthlyjam/ https://www.facebook.com/groups/berowramonthlyjam/ $30 or "free" at Miss Celie's. If free, patrons are asked to buy a couple of drinks from the bar. https://misscelies.com.au/ https://misscelies.com.au/ An import playing a stadium is eye-watering, but why bother?
inigyou 8mo ago

TiredOfLife 8mo ago

The artists wanted to sign with labels.