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There's a very critical bit in my comment that is missing in your response unfortunately -- I'm not sure if I'm communicating it poorly, so I'll try again, with
by dataflow 7mo ago
There's a very critical bit in my comment that is missing in your response unfortunately -- I'm not sure if I'm communicating it poorly, so I'll try again, with more emphasis.
> I'm not sure how meaningful it is to try to discern the exact percentage of "Iranians not living in Iran are upset the media isn't covering the regime murdering its own people". This would be par for the course, no?
I'm lost here, because that was not at all the percentage I was talking about -- and it didn't need to be even remotely exact, either. I was asking what percentage of Iranians (whether local or expat, although local would be even more relevant here) you see/hear about that compare the global reaction to their situation to the global reaction to Palestinians' situation.
This comparison bit is absolutely critical. It's one thing to be upset the media isn't covering some situation you feel deserves more coverage. It's a whole 'nother thing to be pointing toward the Palestinians as if whatever is happening regarding them has any bearing on another case. (And, let's be clear, it carries an implicit accusation of bias/hypocrisy/etc. in the media and/or public.)
> So, what does it matter if the percentage of Iranians complaining about this issue is high, or low?
Assuming "this issue" refers to what I meant and not what you described:
It matters a ton because my entire point is that for the argument to stand on its merits, Iranians themselves would have to agree with you. And yet I have not even heard of one single Iranian (and I assure you I know n > 1) who has even brought up Palestine in the discussion, let alone drawn a comparison between the two. Given the conflation above in your comment, it's not even clear to me whether your n = 1 data point was doing so either, but perhaps they were.
Again: this could be my bubble, but your experience seems to confirm what I'm saying too.
If hardly anyone in the population itself finds such a comparison apt enough to draw, then I'm sorry, that means it simply isn't. At that point, you have a perfectly sufficient explanation of why "all [one's] friends who posted non-stop about supporting Palestine have NEVER made one mention of supporting the Iranians protesting that regime": because they the situations aren't comparable to begin with, regardless of any biases one may allege.
- remarkEon 7mo agoI see. I can't say I've ever heard of or seen Iranians attempting to compare the situation back in Iran with that of Palestinians in Gaza. To be clear, though, I never claimed (or at least I didn't intend to) that the situation in Gaza and in Iran currently is or was comparable. I think, or at least I thought, the comment that generated this stub had to with with perceived bias in media coverage of the events themselves, to which my point was that there are probably reasons that Americans - as complex as the political dynamic is in this country right now - would sort themselves into groups that would care about one and not the other.