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I do not know how to phrase this politely. I like the platform and the concept is interesting. But the people on it are just so far away from what me (and men m
by AuthAuth 7mo ago
I do not know how to phrase this politely. I like the platform and the concept is interesting. But the people on it are just so far away from what me (and men my age) deem interesting and seem to be hostile to anything that doesnt fit their very restrictive ideals.
You'll never find sports, guns, cars, comedy and a lot of other mainstream content on these platforms even though there is nothing inherently offensive about it. I havent used Loops but im assuming its the same crowd as on Mastodon.
- krapp 7mo ago>You'll never find sports, guns, cars, comedy and a lot of other mainstream content on these platforms even though there is nothing inherently offensive about it. I'm pretty sure you can find all of those things on TikTok and Youtube Shorts. If you're talking about federated platforms, probably all of it but guns. And if you can't of course no one is stopping you from starting a channel or instance yourself.
- AuthAuth 7mo agoI posted a cool clip from the UFC and got banned even though the content had a warning. It wasnt even that violent just a clean headkick ko. If I started an instance it would get defederated because people would take one look and assume its toxic. But its not, Im not, I've spend years in the leftie techie activist spaces and cause no issues.
- bee_rider 7mo agoYou’d get defederated by instances that find that sort of thing objectionable, I guess. But, if you think it is a popular niche, couldn’t a separate community grow? That’s the whole promise of decentralization.
- AuthAuth 7mo agoI do think its a popular niche but currently no one on the fediverse enjoys that stuff. But how can it grow when its rejected?
- root_axis 7mo agoThe whole point of federation is that you can build communities that share common values. I'm not sure what more you want. We can't force everyone to like the things you like. However, it is a little silly to suggest that UFC is not extremely popular. I myself have wasted hours flipping through UFC reels.
- AuthAuth 7mo agoThis is about the fediverse not about the rest of the internet.
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- nozzlegear 7mo ago> The rest of the world sits back snd takes just one guess as to which country you’re from. Are football and F1 not immensely popular in Europe and the rest of the world? > Modern masculinity has lapped femininity in how utterly performative it is. This shit is so tiring. People like what they like, big whoop.
- adw 7mo agoFootball and F1 have become more popular by being less performatively male. Drive to Survive is The Real Househusbands of Oxfordshire (and Monaco).
- rozap 7mo agoWhat. What if I just like cars though. Am I a performative male?
- AuthAuth 7mo agoNo. Cars are amazing pieces of engineering and fun to drive. The people who vapidly flex supercars are an irrelevant fraction of the community.
- AuthAuth 7mo agoNew Zealand. I dont own any guns or flash cars but I still think they're interesting
- jesse__ 7mo agoOf the three, I only like cars. I'm from Canada, and I like cars for many of the same reasons I like programming. They're complicated, fickle, and go fucking fast when you get everything right. It's like mainlining adrenaline and validation at the same time.. who wouldn't like that?! They're just fucking fun
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- GaryBluto 7mo agoWhile I'm not interested in "short form" videos I had the same curiosity regarding the userbase and wanted to check myself. The only way to look at the web view is to sign up, so I did. I completed E-Mail verification, then the account was disabled immediately with a pop up message to contact support. Not worth the effort.
- riidom 7mo agoI just tried exactly the same (at https://loops.video https://loops.video ), but I was able to watch without account, and registering afterwards also worked. Guess it's something on your side.
- GaryBluto 7mo agoI can too, now. I wonder if any changes were made or if it was just a problem on my side. Checking loops.video now, these were the first 5 videos I saw, in order: 1. Left-Wing American Politics 2. Promotion of the Fediverse and Loops 3. Left-Wing American Politics 4. A Non-English Play 5. Left-Wing American Politics 6. Stop Motion Flipbook Thing 7. Advocation for Loops Itself and Decentralization 8. Loops Promo 9. Left-Wing American Politics So out of the first 9 videos, 4 centre around American politics, 1 I couldn't understand, 3 were promotion for the service I was currently using and only one was interesting and understandable.
- atomicfiredoll 7mo agoI don't have a Loops account, but check multiple sites for news and information, landing on the loops homepage several times. I haven't needed a login to see videos appear for some time. If it's anything like the rest of the Fediverse applications, it's meant to give you a full chronological feed of people you subscribe to. While several of these sites seem to have a simple trending page, one of the themes of the Fediverse seems to be getting away from overly predatory algorithms and leaning into letting people curate their own feeds and interactions again. It sounds a lot like a "be the change" situation. If you want to see other stuff, follow people you like instead of drinking from the hose. It's still a small site, so if you don't see the content you want, then make it or build the community there. These sites can also have basic interoperability. I don't know if the Loops UI supports subscribing to people in other Fedi networks yet, but I've seen people say Loops videos have started trickling onto Mastodon.
- deadbabe 7mo agoDisgusting.
- root_axis 7mo ago> You'll never find sports, guns, cars, comedy and a lot of other mainstream content on these platforms even though there is nothing inherently offensive about it. What are you talking about? Sports, cars, and comedy are present everywhere on the internet. Guns are more of a niche and not without controversy, and it's certainly true that the incumbent networks place restrictions on some gun related content.
- AuthAuth 7mo agoI know they're everywhere on the internet. I'm specifically talking about loops/mastodon. I want loops/mastodon to be a diverse place that has content from all over the internet.
- atomicfiredoll 7mo ago> I want loops/mastodon to be a diverse place that has content from all over the internet. I think a lot of Fedi people want that, but the community is still small. It's a bit of a chicken and egg, so I would encourage you to create the content or communities you want to see. I'm not a Loops user atm though.
- Adiqq 7mo ago> so I would encourage you to create the content or communities you want to see. There are hidden reasons behind centralized solutions, that make decentralized solutions unpopular. If anyone suggests "just go out and make it better", it's missing the point. That's like saying: "don't participate in society, just start your own". In theory it makes sense, in practice it's just ignorance and lack of awareness on how difficult and complex task it is. Centralized solutions are often just a business, they're not transparent, they're not cooperative, they're not ethical, they're there to conquer market and there's big money behind them, they're part of surveillance capitalism. These are just examples, but there's lot more, so in context of social media, it's intertwined with the rest of simulation called "real world", so almost no one is going to know what you're talking about, when mention Loops/Mastodon/Bluesky, people know dominant platforms and stick to them and they may do so as part of social pressure and because they compete for status. In this society, you won't gain status by using Loops. People are buying iPhone for status, even though something like Samsung or Fairphone would be good as well. People are buying luxury frames for glasses, because they want to show brand, they don't care that it's more expensive and quality is basically they same.
- wizzwizz4 7mo agoI have no interest in guns, and only a minor interest in sports and cars; but if you set up an instance devoted to these, and got your friends to use it (just to talk to each other), I reckon it would only be a few months before you'd seeded a community. (There is plenty of comedy on the Fediverse, so I think that's a bad example.) The design of the Fediverse is receptive to niche communities. If other communities are hostile, you can just pretend they don't exist, and the things they post won't appear on your timelines. "The people on it" is not as much of a thing as you might be used to from social media like Instagram, Reddit, Tumblr, or HN. (As everyone's so very fond or saying, ActivityPub is like email.) If your niche is a popular niche (which sports most certainly are), then it should get quite big, quite quickly, provided the people who'd participate in it are (or can be) present.
- AuthAuth 7mo agoI disagree because you dont just want "twitter for MMA" you want the whole network. So you want to be a good citizen and have instances federate with you. But most wont because of the nature of the content. So users would prefer platforms where they can follow all content from a single account.
- wizzwizz4 7mo agoYou can still have those instances federated with you. Consider the various language communities on the Fediverse: there's little overlap between them, except where speakers are bilingual, but their instances do federate. You can do the same thing with interests. There is no advantage to centralised systems in this regard: they have all the same problems.
- ear7h 7mo agoThis identity politics/virtue signaling seems off topic. > I havent used Loops I think the worst repercussion of consuming short form content is that it gives the _consumer_ a false sense of engagement. That their passive consumption endows them with knowledge and credibility, leading to the deluded belief that a display of disintirest such as this one is 1) appropriate and 2) a profound condemnation rather than the petty, irrelevant whine that it is.